Seriously . . . let's discuss 'Grey's Anatomy'

April 28, 12:23 PM

Backlash is a funny thing.

I’ve talked about this before but it is in a TV viewer's innate nature to build something up only to tear it down. I think that’s what was happening to Grey’s Anatomy at the end of last season and the beginning of this one.

Now something even more serious is going on.

Apathy.

Everyone I talk to seems to be indifferent to the show. Many I talked to didn't even tune into the show's return last week. That’s not a good sign. It’s much better when people are angry with a show because it means they still care.

I, too, felt a little ennui while watching last week’s episode. Now that we know that Derek and Meredith will be together "for good" before the end of the season, all his scenes with Rose seem a little sad to me. Like "oh poor Rose, she doesn’t know she doesn’t stand a chance." Why even bother watching those scenes if we know they are going nowhere?

The rest of the characters appeared to be running in place a little bit. George is mopey. Lexie is needy. Christina is power hungry. Izzie is annoying. They all are really in need of a great story line to settle into.

And I can’t quite figure out what the show is doing with the whole Erica Hahn and Callie Torres situation. I’ll be quite disappointed if they take what could have been just a female friendship that would unsettle Christina and make it romantic. I’m obviously totally fine with either or both of them being gay (and that's been the speculation about Erica since she joined the series) but it annoys me that TV constantly plays to this sort of male fantasy stereotype. Because women can just be friends who spend a lot of time together. Putting Callie and Erica together romantically would seem like a ratings stunt to get everyone talking.

But the good news is that both Addison (Kate Walsh) and Ava (Elizabeth Reaser) return this week (Thursday at 9 p.m. on ABC) which should jump kick me out of my current state of world-weariness with the show.

What did you think of Grey’s last week? Or are you even still watching the show? What about Erica and Callie? Talk about it below.

Highlights of the Week Ahead

All times listed are Eastern Standard Time for April 28-May 4

I have to tell you I was in a little bit of denial about the CW’s "OMFG" campaign for Gossip Girl. I think there was part of me that thought, "well a network can’t possibly really being doing that" and just ignored it. And honestly I’m surprised that the CW got away with it and there wasn’t more of a brouhaha about the campaign. It is kind of funny to think of network executives, well past the age of these trendy Upper East Siders, dreaming up a campaign like this. It all seems rather silly, doesn't it? Michelle Trachtenberg begins her four episode guest star stint as Georgina Sparks Monday at 8 p.m. on the CW. And next week a character comes out. I’m curious to see how the show handles that story line and I really hope they really treat it responsibly. What did you think of the "OMFG" campaign? Talk about it below.

I find it kind of interesting that One Tree Hill is still pursuing the Lucas/ Lindsey romance and not putting Peyton and Lucas back together. I’m actually not sure I want Lucas with either of them. How about you? Are you rooting for Lindsey or for Peyton or for somebody totally new entirely? This week Lindsey returns to Tree Hill for Jamie’s birthday (Monday, CW, 9 p.m.).

House is back with four new episodes Monday at 9 p.m. on FOX. One of the big story arc for the remainder of the season is Wilson’s relationship with Amber and House’s reaction to it. I’m really glad they found a way to keep Anne Dudek on the show for a little while longer but I remain very concerned about how little we’ve seen of Cameron and Chase. I kind of feel like if the show doesn’t find the right place for them soon (fearless prediction alert), they won’t be on the show this time next year. The other great thing about House returning to complete the season is that we will finally get to see the big two-part episode the show had planned to air after the Super Bowl but couldn't due to the writer's strike.

In a continuing trend, Andi finds out about Sam’s deal with the devil on Reaper (Tuesday at 9 p.m. on CW). It seems like more and more shows are doing this – letting characters in on the main characters not-so-secret secret (honestly how long will the new DA be in the dark on Moonlight?) But I think it’s a good move for the show because hopefully it will jump kick Andi and Sam out of the holding pattern they’ve been in.

No sooner had I told you that repeats of the The Unit would begin airing this week when CBS made a scheduling change. Now new episodes of Shark will air Tuesday at 9 p.m. on CBS and episodes of The Unit are nowhere to be found (a repeat of CSI air immediately after Shark.). One of my favorites, Paula Marshall (she totally won me over when she was in Out of Practice), joins the cast as a prosecutor who will work with Sebastian (hmmm. . . .I wonder if that’s TV speak for romantic interest).

Robin Williams guest stars on the 200th episode of Law & Order: SVU (Tuesday at 10 p.m. on NBC). Williams plays Merritt Rook, an engineer whose powers of persuasion have a criminal effect. The episode is fairly thought-provoking and Williams truly disappears into the role.

The scheduling shenanigans continue on ABC this week. Women’s Murder Club returns with new episodes Tuesday at 10 p.m. on ABC (that’s the Boston Legal time slot). The good news for Jericho fans (and everyone else) is that Gerald McRaney guest stars as Lindsay’s father. Joel Gretsch (Tom Baldwin on The 4400) begins his recurring role as Lindsay’s boyfriend. And fun random fact for all of you, Gretsch is married to Melanie Shatner, who is the daughter of William Shatner whose show, Boston Legal, is being booted to Wednesday night at 10 p.m. on ABC. By the way, this all puts Men in Trees out of its time slot and off the schedule until the end of May.

My Name is Earl is quickly getting to the point of since I can’t say anything nice about the show better to say nothing at all. I found last week’s episode to be bordering on painful to watch. I know the show thrives on Randy’s simple mindedness and is not exactly rooted in reality but I always believed the characters at some level. But last week when Randy was pushing around a still comatose Earl in a shopping cart, well that was too much for me. Was it too much for you? Thankfully Earl is out of his coma this week (no more wacky sitcom in his dreams) and trying to find Billie.

Nina Garcia and Christian Siriano guest star as themselves on Ugly Betty (Thursday, ABC, 8 p.m.). And things get a little dicey for Betty when an off-her-meds Renee becomes convinced that Betty is in love with Daniel (although you can’t really blame Renee for worrying about that since I think that exact thing has happened in other incarnations of the show). I used to enjoy the love triangle brewing between Betty, Henry and Gio but after last week I’m a little all set with Henry and I kind of want his story line with Betty totally wrapped up. My other word of caution is to Amanda, who is so wonderful on the show. I think Amanda is the kind of character who is in danger of becoming a stereotype of herself and all shtick. I’m hoping that doesn’t happen to Amanda.

Jericho may be cancelled but its stars are popping up everywhere. Sprague Grayden guest stars as the best friend of a missing lottery winner on Without a Trace (Thursday, CBS, 10 p.m.). And Jack investigates Brian Donovan, the father of Samantha’s baby. Even though it was ridiculous that Jack would leave the hospital and survive the whole day in his condition, I really think this story arc has been great for the show this season.

It’s a wonderful Smallville when Clark finds out what life would have been like if he had never arrived in Smallville. The story line is quite convenient because Tom Welling actually directed this episode that airs Thursday at 8 p.m. on the CW.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is back as the boys’ father on Supernatural at 9 p.m. on the CW.

That’s all for today. I’ll be back on Wednesday with this week’s familiar faces, thoughts on Brothers & Sisters, and more. Have a question, seen a familiar face, want to nominate a quote of the week or a topic for discussion? Write me at amytvgal@zap2it.com. Have a great weekend.

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I must be ahead of the curve. I stopped caring about Grey's Anatomy after the preposterouis Izzie/Denny arc.

Tom | Apr 28, 2008 12:29:28 PM | #

I look forward to your thoughts on last night's BROTHERS AND SISTERS. I, myself, was very upset with it and I believe the plot twist on it could result in irreparable harm to the series.

marky | Apr 28, 2008 12:30:36 PM | #

I was avid about "Grey's Anatomy" right up to the season 3 premiere (Izzie on the floor, right?). Loved Denny even though it was ridiculous. After that, I was content to watch in online a few days or weeks later, but no rush. I'm more concerned about the added gore (chainsaws and bears in particular). I kinda remember Shonda saying she didn't like up close surgeries, so they fudged around them on purpose. It was my "safe" medical show that wouldn't get too graphic -- no more! This week was ewww, after ewww, after ewww.

Elisa | Apr 28, 2008 12:46:11 PM | #

Ok, I still lie Greys, but my issue with it is, there is always the gross scene in the beginning where I say Ewww! a million times and cover my eyes, then it just levels out to what it is. Im still watching. If I may change the subject and offer my cheesy quote of the week already from bart simpson:

"for once im glad I had a cow, man."

Ken | Apr 28, 2008 12:46:21 PM | #

I am still watching Grey's but I no longer feel truly invested. I didn't even Hate George and Izzie together (which set off many other fans) but I just can't seem to care what any of the characters have going on.
I predict that maybe Hahn is interested in Callie, but the feeling isn't mutual. That would be interesting and would clear up the question of Hahn's sexuality. But I, too, am disappointed by the release that Meredith and Derek will be together by end of season. I like Rose, but don't really care about her, since I know it won't last.
I can't wait for wednesday's post to her TV Gal's opinion on Brothers & Sisters. I am quite miffed about the de-Walker-fication of Rebecca and need someone else's opinion.
Oh and on the Gossip Girl front... I read a spoiler, which I won't reveal here, but I am very, very disappointed in the choice for the gay character. Way too stereotypical and obvious.

Mandy | Apr 28, 2008 12:46:47 PM | #

I hope they don't make Erika a lesbian because then Sloane would believe that being gay is the only reason a woman wouldn't be interested in him! I agree that the scenes with Rose seem pointless since we know that Meredith and Derek are getting together by the end of the season. Also, since I hate the Ava character, I am really not thrilled with her being pregnant ... assuming that this is going to be a whose-the-daddy storyling. Ugh.

EiEiOh | Apr 28, 2008 1:01:04 PM | #

I'm with Tom, I called it that the Izzie/Denny storyline would kill the show. Mind you I said it in his first scene on the show. Then again it took about a full year (Denny appeared at about the 1/2 way point in year 2 and the 1/2 point in year 3 is when the show died). I still watch the show - kind of like I did with 90210. I just hope I don't have to hang on for 6 years like I did with 90210 before just dies. Perhaps I'll drop the show. I rarely do - I have with Friends and ER - but when I do I usually go back to them (like I have been doing with Friends and ER) on DVD. I find it much easier to watch shows on DVD years later than I do at the time I lose interest in them. I find I appreciate them more at that point.

Last point about Grey's, I totally didn't have that reaction to the Callie/Hahn storyline until TV Gal pointed it out - i.e. potential lesbian angle. Perhaps this is the "BIG KISS" surprise that Shonda Rhimes talks about when giving away future plans (like she did about Derek and Meridith getting back together by the end of the season).

As for House I actually have the opposite reaction. I thought that Cameron and Chase will be back as a part of the team to start the new year rather than them being permanently replaced by the new team.

Rishi | Apr 28, 2008 1:04:29 PM | #

I think that Grey's misses Isaiah Washington as an actor and his character, Burke, was an essential connector. Christina's character has been aimless with out Burke, and Derek and the chief have been without strong a professional peers. I think Shonda Rimes did her best writing for Burke and it help cover up the weaker character development and storylines.

Dex | Apr 28, 2008 1:05:37 PM | #

I actually stopped watching Grey's regularly when Meredith fell in the water (last season? the season b4?) and I realized I didn't really care whether she drowned. I had been kind of meh up to that point, but was still watching.

Jen | Apr 28, 2008 1:17:31 PM | #

Oh, I almost forgot. I agree with Mandy that the character chosen to be gay is so uninspired. And the spoiler was given out on E! news with no spoiler warning.

Jen | Apr 28, 2008 1:19:20 PM | #

I loved the Denny storyline - even if it was outrageous- and loved Izzy back then. I've always disliked Meredith and in fact, didn't watch Grey's regularly at first, because she bugged me so bad. Then the other characters won me over.

However, after Denny's death, things just started going downhill, and I think the absence of Burke and Addison are two big parts. The best "couple" right now are Derek and Sloan. If things don't pick up soon, I am going to go back to watching CSI and not even DVR'ing Greys.

Ali | Apr 28, 2008 1:21:32 PM | #

I couldn't disagree with you more about Grey's. I thought "Where the Wild Things Are" was absolutely fantastic - funny, smart, and touching, with a lot of great dialogue. It has been one of the most well-written shows on TV since its premiere, and with very few mis-steps, it continues to be so. I love the use of theme and metaphor, which was especially well done in this episode (the whole animal instinct thing worked well but was not over-done), and I love the parallels between the doctors and their patients. Also, I think the Meredith in therapy storyline is being handled very well so far - Amy Madigan is a powerhouse actress, she was great last week and I'm sure she will just get better. Looking forward to some great scenes between Madigan and the always fantastic Ellen Pompeo, who is the main reason I watch Grey's. There's a lot to like about the show. And other people must think so too, since Grey's was the top primetime performer in the coveted 18-49 demographic.

Chloe | Apr 28, 2008 1:27:27 PM | #

Grey's is no longer must see for me, but I still watch it several days after it airs. Knowing that Derek and Meridith will somehow find their way back to each other does make the whole Rose thing rather non important. I think this could either be the beginning of a new chapter for Grey's or the begining of the last page. I just have to say that I really enjoyed Moonlight last week and it was good to be reminded how much I love that show. I am also looking forward to Women's Murder Club, I hope that people tune in with the moved. I know so many people who got out of the TV habit during the strike and that could be bad news for some of the shows that are on the "bubble"

Hettie | Apr 28, 2008 1:31:25 PM | #

Actually, I think the BIG KISS surprise is Erica & Christina. And I too became indifferent once Izzy/Denny played out to its ridiculous middle.

KristenLC | Apr 28, 2008 1:32:52 PM | #

I agree about Grey's, it went from "must see" to "maybe catch" for me. Meredith drags the show down. She's forever unhappy and her "S&M" relationship was ridiculous. I'm tired of her and her issues and couldn't care less about she and Derek, would rather them move along to others to breathe some life back into each of them. Its "maybe catch" because of the characters Alex, Mark, Cristina and Derek as I still find those characters interesting.

Like others, would love to hear opinions on last night's B&S (far better show than GA). I hated the de-Walkering of Rebecca.

Claire | Apr 28, 2008 1:34:11 PM | #

I still watch Grey's but usually days later. I don't really care if I miss it anymore. It went down with the stupid NDE and Meredith & Derek. Knowing they are getting back together doesn't make me want to watch, just the opposite. They're never ending drama is tired and the show should have moved on.

Callie & Hahn being the kiss would seem like a ratings stunt. I'm guessing the kiss will be the ever boring Meredith & Derek. Yawn.

Denise | Apr 28, 2008 1:50:25 PM | #

I stopped watching Grey's when Meredith was flailing around in the water. The woman is eternally unhappy and its just annoying to watch. Nothing but moping even after she had her McDreamy and her McLife (which she whined about losing a season earlier). Season 1 was great and fun, season 2 was excellent and made you feel for the characters, season 3 stunk. No desire to find out if season 4 is any better, I'm guessing Meredith is still whining.

Connie | Apr 28, 2008 2:01:21 PM | #

I stopped watching Gray's sometime last season. I just couldn't stand all the "romantic" (actually anti-romantic) ups and downs any more. And frankly the characters were getting TOO flawed.

Glenn | Apr 28, 2008 2:10:28 PM | #

I only read recaps for GA now. If there is some storyline for some of the characters I would probably watch it again. Season 3 wore me out and I haven't watched since episode 3 of season 4. Meredith, her problems and Meredith/Derek and their on/off story is just boring after awhile. Its the same thing over and over. I waited and waited to see story for others and it just never happened. I overloaded on Meredith to the point of complete apathy about the character. I tuned out so I didn't have to see her anymore.

Can't wait for Wednesday's column about Brothers & Sisters!

Juliana | Apr 28, 2008 2:39:00 PM | #

I am apathetic just because I don't want to care, and have Grey's throw more crap at me. I enjoyed the episode, but I think that it is going to take until closer to the SF to really see if things have changed or if they are still going down the path of the last few episodes of S3.

M | Apr 28, 2008 2:43:04 PM | #

Shonda Rhimes is just flailing. She had a great start, but now just seems to latch onto anything that looked interesting, and resets all the subplots back to status quo ante afterward. An example: Izzie and Denny. Falling in love with a patient was a big development for her, and Jeffrey Dean Morgan certainly gave the show a lift. Then they killed Denny. The subplot with Izzie's suspension churned a bit, then they reset things and brought her back. Same with the subplot involving Denny's money: a total reset.

Now we hear that the initial (even before starting at Seattle Grace) romance, Meredith and Derek, is being reset again.

If you want to make episodic TV you've got to plot things out in a consistent manner. There's no reset button. Rhimes apparently sucks at story arcs, and that's why you don't need to watch every episode of "Grey's Anatomy".

Henry | Apr 28, 2008 2:56:41 PM | #

I don't watch Grey's...never have. So, as a former employee of a CW affiliate, I'll comment on that. IMO, CBS and Time Warner should have kept The WB brand for the merged network. The Frog had brand recognition that "The CW" will never have. The whole CW line-up, save "Smackdown" is comprised of series that were either on The WB, or would have felt right at home there. It's in it's second full season now...and people are still wondering what the heck "CW" means...Country & Western?
Why re-brand the network, when you're just going to put out a line-up just like The WB?
Looking forward to the new WB website.

Myke25 | Apr 28, 2008 2:59:04 PM | #

I am really surprised at all of the negative comments about GA. Personally, I thought last weeks episode was GREAT! It reminded me of the old "Grey's". Everybody was so upset with the up and down with Mer/Der (me included) that I figured the majority of the fans would be thrilled to know they will be together soon. So, since I'm such a huge Mer/Der fan, I was thrilled to get this news and it certainly does not bother me to see Rose with Derek because I know it will not last! I don't feel sorry for her because she should have known what she was getting herself into! Naturally, season 3 was very sad and depressing and I truly hated the fact that Mer/Der broke up in the last episode before the strike! I think SHonda has had the time to go back and rethink things and thats why she realizes that these two belong together and Meredith and Derek need some help to get to that place. I think it will be great to watch their journey together as well as the others characters! Everybody needs to give Shonda a chance to get her show back on track and I think she is doing just that! Its certainly worth the wait to me! You can't throw in the towel yet, epsecially if you are a TRUE GA FAN!! And the ratings were good this past week. CSI was only a couple of ratings points ahead of GA and GA naturally won the demo 18-49 as usual. I think as the next few episodes continue to close out season 4, everybody will realize that GREY's is back. Its still a must... to talk about it on Friday mornings at my workplace! cAN'T WAIT TILL THURS. NIGHT!

GA Fan | Apr 28, 2008 3:18:22 PM | #

any word if this is the last season of Smallville?

Any idea about if the Fall Lineups will be announced when they normally are, the 2nd or 3rd week of May?

I just read about 2 Rob Thomas projects (Veronica Mars creator) and someone posted a rumor that Kristen Bell is cast in 1 of them.

Kyle | Apr 28, 2008 3:56:50 PM | #

I'm getting a little tired of all the gay being thrown in my face wherever I turn. I know it's fashionable these days, but it stills weirds a lot of us out. They make it seem like there are a lot more gay people than there are, and that it's just fine with everyone. Neither is true, and I worry that it will encourage more kids to go down a sad road.

Jessica | Apr 28, 2008 4:18:25 PM | #

I got an email announcing the OMFG thing, and I was all ready to blog on it, but never saw an ad that included the "F". I think they backed off from it, at least in the Midwest, where I live. I certainly thought it was in the poorest taste for a show aimed at preteens.

Wendy | Apr 28, 2008 4:21:58 PM | #

I no longer watch Grey's every week, just here and there. Agree with many of the comments above - the show is repetitive and the never ending drama with Meredith and the MerDer relationship grew tiresome. They need to focus on others to have the show be must see again for me. The show needs new life.

Carol | Apr 28, 2008 4:30:25 PM | #

I still watch Grey's, and it's not a bad show. I agree, it has gotten really boring as of late, but I've sat through things that were worse and there isn't anything else on at that time that I would want to watch in its place.

Callie and Erica, I thought I liked the idea, but now thinking about it, George would end up all ballistic and whiney that his estranged wife has gone lesbian.

I am really excited that Addison is back! Another case of you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.

Kim | Apr 28, 2008 4:44:54 PM | #

At this point, Lucas deserves no one. He is a jerk. So he'll wait for Lindsey, but he wouldn't wait for Peyton when she wasn't ready to get engaged? Moron.

Grey's was good this week, but it was the last show I watched in my huge Thursday night line-up. It used to be the first.

Kath | Apr 28, 2008 5:01:33 PM | #

I'm afraid that I'm one of those who doesn't really care about "Grey's Anatomy".

Stopped caring for the show around about when Izzy cut Denny's LVAD wire and my frustration became disdain once Izzme and George hooked up. I do watch the show but only because they haven't fucked up the best thing about the show: Alex... he's interesting.

THall | Apr 28, 2008 5:15:05 PM | #

I loved the OMFG Gossip Girl campaign. My only complaint is that they should have used O_o instead of :-o which shows they're not quite as hip as they think. lol

I gave up on Grey's a long time ago. Even before Denny, though I did end up watching his episodes eventually.

Kalena | Apr 28, 2008 5:25:21 PM | #

The last show I watched was the end of one of the seasons when Burke left Christina at the alter and Mer&Mc broke up -- yet again! Too, too, too boring. Writers can only play that card so many times, but the deck was dog-eared. Ugh. (plus, Mer's dad slapping her because his wife died? The stupidity -- IT BURNS!)

evie | Apr 28, 2008 5:52:31 PM | #

Amy, are you a "little all set with Henry" or a little upset with Henry? I'm confused...which is easy to do!

I'm ready for Henry and Betty to end their tragedy-in-waiting so she can finally be happy with someone like Gio. Loved the romance in this episode!

June | Apr 28, 2008 6:11:40 PM | #

Nevermind. I reread it. Yes, I agree; wrap that storyline up!

June | Apr 28, 2008 6:12:49 PM | #

I still watch Grey's, and I'm looking forward to Addison's return. Does this mean that her spinoff, Private Practice, was cancelled? Is Addison back to stay?

LE | Apr 28, 2008 6:18:52 PM | #

I watched Grey's last week b/c I'm so grateful for new episodes of shows these days! It's not an exciting show like it used to be b/c we're onto Shonda Rimes' bag of tricks, but the shock medical stuff is still fun to me (like when that character's scalp was hanging off of her head. Wow). I also liked the contest thing.

Seriously, though, Izzy and George are really annoying.

I wondered about the OMFG campaign, as well. It seems like the kind of thing that would ruffle the feathers of the Bill O'Reillys in the world. After all the hype, Gossip Girl's return didn't really provoke an OMFG kind of reaction, though. Go figure.

Btw, I'm still pissed about Carly Smithson's elimination from Idol, and the death of Alex on Lost. Depressing TV week.

Cat | Apr 28, 2008 6:51:37 PM | #

I HATE how Brothers & Sisters pulled the switcheroo with Rebecca! Totally blows! I think its lame to go through all of that to make her a Walker and then back out of it. It has dropped my respect for the show tremendously! Just because she shares some chemistry with the guy who plays Justin, they are going to back off of her being his sister. BLOWS!!!!

And I still love GA! Watch is religiously. One of the best written shows on tv, even when they make a mistake (George/Izzie). Still better than half the crap on tv now!

Tee | Apr 28, 2008 7:33:39 PM | #

Totally agree with Chloe Greys is still the show i look forward the most too. And seriously I can’t get the complaints george and izzie the only story arc that I wasn’t thrilled about is over and i think shonda is doing a wonderful job at making their characters back to the way we liked em. And izzie does not annoy me okay she was all mopey in season 3 but ppl watch season 4 if u havnt, all the characters are more into the medical stuff now and less drama...just the was i like it. this season is definitely on par with season 1. And im sorry Amy but your the one who urged the viewers to not watch greys(and rather watch CSI) when it moved to Thursdays and that was the time when season 3 hadn’t happened and every one was in love with the show, so although i love your blog but really dont pay attention to anything you say about the show; cause uve hated it from the start or actually i think u like it but are just afraid to admit it. Anywho ppl no one will beat u up if u say u like GA its okay let ur true feelings show.

Zac | Apr 28, 2008 7:58:30 PM | #

I still watch Grey's only because there's nothing else I'm remotely interested on at that time. If I'm out I don't even bother recording or catching up online anymore. Nothing happens, not a big deal to miss a show. Seasons go by and its still Meredith complaining, MerDer breaking up or making up or some problem of Meredith's. Just don't care about her anymore. Alex and Mark are really the only two I'm interested in but they barely have any storyline.

I am glad for this week - Addison is back in town! Very happy about that.

Carly | Apr 28, 2008 8:00:01 PM | #

Well, I really enjoyed GA, and am also surprised at the negativity. Oh, of course, there were scenes I fast forwarded through...but I always do. I am hopeful that Shonda has taken some time to listen to all the criticism prior to the strike...and learn.

Melrox | Apr 28, 2008 8:32:54 PM | #

Shonda Rimes doesn't write all the episodes herself. In fact, I'd be surprised if she did little more than make notes.

Jon | Apr 28, 2008 9:17:47 PM | #

I can't wait for the new episodes of "Smallville" and "Supernatural". This week is Smallville's 150th episode and it seems to give everybody a good storyline, based on the description. I am curious about what they are going to do with the phone call to the Winchester's from their dad on Supernatural.

Penny | Apr 28, 2008 9:27:47 PM | #

I'm with you, Amy (as usual) -- I could not finish watching the "My Name is Earl" episode. I shut it off midway through, and I took it off my TiVo auto-record list, although if it finally is finished with Earl's coma, maybe I will give it one last chance. Also, last week I said that I was giving up on "Brothers and Sisters," but I couldn't do it. Actually, I'm glad that I couldn't because Sunday's episode was great -- and it looks like things are really going to heat up.

John in Sac | Apr 28, 2008 11:42:22 PM | #

i want lucas to eventually end up with peyton. i don't care when though. but i do agree with kath about the hypocrasy(sp?) of waiting for lindsey but not for peyton.

carrie | Apr 28, 2008 11:51:28 PM | #

I quit watching Grey's Anatomy when they moved it to Thursday, and I don't know what the "OMFG campaign" for Gossip Girl is. I didn't see this week's My Name is Earl (I was asleep), I don't watch One Tree Hill, either.

Tego Livi | Apr 29, 2008 2:05:28 AM | #

In the other Betty versions (the Colombian original, Spain...) the story is: Betty is in love with Daniel (Alejandro), who uses her, and,then, gets to know her and finally falls in love with her. And, at the end, she changes completely her appearance and becomes quite beautiful.

I Know that I am alone in this, but I prefere Lucas with Brooke, the character who has really grown and changed (for the better) during these years.

| Apr 29, 2008 2:38:45 AM | #

lucas being with brooke would book end the series nicely. (although the drama would then focus on hpw peyton would react to this, how peyton would react, again?)

frankly though i'm kinda sick of the show about now. i only realized it the last couple of weeks, but i really don't like nate and hailie's kid, i don;t really think that next week's ads with dan telling lucas (and nathan)about his condition makes any sense at all, given that he shot what could have possibly been his savior. its kind of a cheap bid for emotion (and to make nate and lucas look all tortured) and a way to keep having dan involved in the show in a major way again.

ehhhh---i think i couldn't really care about it anymore..and yet i'm still watching (well halfway watching, i taped House, and Sam Who.)

also grey's is as good as its been all season--granted that's not saying much, but it is what it is, it had its watercooler moment in the sun, and now its just ready to settle back and have a nice life on its way to syndication.

i do agree the most ridiculous the show was when it had grey almost dying in that drowning accident last feb...that was i get that's thats good drama, but the shows named after her, you know she's not gonna die.

| Apr 29, 2008 3:36:36 AM | #

lucas being with brooke would book end the series nicely. (although the drama would then focus on hpw peyton would react to this, how peyton would react, again?)

ehhhh---i think i couldn't really care about it anymore..and yet i'm still watching (well halfway watching, i taped House, and Sam Who.)

matt | Apr 29, 2008 3:36:41 AM | #

goddamn it. sorry peoples.

matt | Apr 29, 2008 3:37:17 AM | #

Like someone commented above, I think Grey's has suffered from too many writers. Shonda Rhimes writes very few episodes herself. The continuity is not that great...things happen & get left hanging or are teased and there is never any payoff. I still watch it, but occassionally I'll watch The Office live & Grey's later.

About Earl...ITA. It's been hard to watch the 'Earl is in a coma' episodes. Last week's episode was terrible!

The Brothers & Sisters 'Rebecca isn't really a Walker' storyline could seem like a cop out at first glance, but I look at it as more character development/reveal for Holly's character than a way for the show to put Rebecca & Justin together. I'm disappointed that Rebecca chose to lie to Justin about the test results. This makes her no better than Holly, so her speech to David which was very moving now rings hollow.

Diann | Apr 29, 2008 5:19:30 AM | #

In the Gossip Girl books Dan had a few gay encounter but I'm guessing on the show they'll chose a minor character. I was slso thinking could it be two women because Georgi and Serena seemed very close last night.

Mike | Apr 29, 2008 5:52:59 AM | #

I like Lindsay. I have never been a fan of Peyton and Lucas, and am still not a fan. I have to say, though, I really liked the way the show ended last night, with Brooke and Lucas.

Melissa | Apr 29, 2008 7:07:53 AM | #

Still watching Grey's but don't care like I used to. Agree with the comments posted that Meredith wore me down too. Her never ending problems have become boring as its repetitive. She & Derek back together? Don't care. If anything I wish they'd break up. The thought of having to endure more seasons of the flakey, emotionally 12 Meredith trying to be in a relationship makes me want to tune out not in. At least if the other characters had decent storylines it would be tolerable but no one else seems to get much of anything. Its time for this show to give some meaty storylines to the awesome supporting actors on the show. Hopefully someone will figure out that there are many that aren't watching for Meredith & Derek, put them on the backburner, let them snore and move some other characters to the forefront. Give some new life to Grey's.

Marissa | Apr 29, 2008 7:29:25 AM | #

I didn't really miss Grey's during the break. Only thing that I still like with the show is Callie, Bailey, Chief, and the fact that Addison will be on next week.

With Brothers and Sisters I was not really surprised with what happened. If they write the storyline correctly it can be a good thing. The chemistry between Rebecca and Justin can finally be explored. This way she can date (eventually marry) Justin and still be a part of the Walker clan. The way the humor of the show works jokes about Justin dating his "sister" would be great.

Jasmine | Apr 29, 2008 8:04:11 AM | #

According to the ratings info posted at this very site, for the first few times this season, CSI didn't completely beat GA in overall ratings (GA beat it in the demo as it has consistently done), so maybe it's just you TV Gal.

Beau | Apr 29, 2008 8:26:36 AM | #

I'm done with Grey's Anatomy. Not even because of Meredith dying (insert eye roll here), or the back and forth in relationships, or because Burke left, but because I couldn't stomach George and Izzie, and I know it's done, but hey, didn't have to go there to begin with, can't these people stand next to another person without wanting to jump in bed with? Plus Meredith's stepmom dying, soh soh episode arc that did kill a possible story arc. Too much, too soon, really. I didn't even come back for this season.

By the way, no love for Criminal Minds?

Alana Jones | Apr 29, 2008 8:32:24 AM | #

I've watched Grey's on and off this season. After season 3 I'm not all that invested. Too much bedhopping, too much Meredith, repeat storylines and overall not great writing. The sex only MD relationship and Meredith begin unable to even speak to Derek like an adult was just too much, I found it pathetic and she lost all rooting value for me.

Haven't seen the last episode and can't be bothered watching it. I will watch the next though, looking forward to seeing Addison again. GA really needs a grown up on the show. Burke & Addison leaving left a hole, everyone else acts like teens, especially Meredith.

Kristina | Apr 29, 2008 8:45:21 AM | #

Can Grey's Anatomy please go away already? Please!? I think this has to be the most overrated show on TV. As far as House is concerned, I am very excited about the show returning. It was a good episode last night and there are finally some other shows on besides all of this reality junk!

TJ | Apr 29, 2008 9:22:48 AM | #

I am quite certain Erika and Callie won't be an item. Actually, I long tought Erika and Christina would end up together. But the time passed, well, most of the season aired, and nothing happent. I am disappointed with the lack of gay/lesbian characters in the show. You think that with all the heterosexual relationships going around, they could spare one or two minutes to include one or two gay/bisexual characters. I hope the Callie/Erika thing is not put in to make people talk, but that will lead to something more interesting, character wise, than rating stunts.

Alex | Apr 29, 2008 9:35:25 AM | #

I totally agree with Chloe! Grey's was fantastic last Thursday; it was dramatic, funny, and not too over the top as it sometimes can be. Imo, Grey's faltered slightly after Meredith's near-death experience but has quickly rebounded into a grade-A show again. Meredith's recent therapy sessions just cement my belief that the show is on the right track.

As for Brothers & Sisters, I'm done with it now that Rebecca isn't a Walker. It was bad enough to watch Sarah in that boring relationship with Steven Weber and Kevin choosing Scotty over the other guy, but I don't want to see Justin/Rebecca hooking up, ever!!!!

Steve | Apr 29, 2008 9:45:02 AM | #

I STOPPED WATCHING GA WHEN GEORGE WAS NO LONGER THE LOVEABLE CHARACTER HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING

SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS MY COMPUTER HAS GONE BERSERK

Trupen | Apr 29, 2008 10:39:43 AM | #

I really liked Grey's last week. Its been pretty bad beginning when Meredith drowned and in season 4 with her continued over drama. Last week showed me how much better the show can be when Meredith & Derek are minimized or non existent. Its such a better show without their ridiculous melodrama. Meredith not whining every second about her problems helps a lot also. I know they are getting back together though so the enjoyable show will be short lived. We'll be back to the Meredith & Derek over drama hour in no time. I'll probably give up on it then. Been there, done that.

Diana | Apr 29, 2008 10:42:44 AM | #

Kyle, Smallville is coming back next year.

Jessica, I was sorry to read your response to the gay characters being included on television.

You said that they make it seem like there are more gay people then there are, which is not at all true. Most television shows don't portray gay characters at all, whereas studies show that as many as 1 in every 7 people are gay. That would mean that there should be at least one gay character on practically every television show and that is certainly not the case.

As for your feeling that showing gay characters might cause young people to go down a sad road, I take great issue with that statement. If homosexuality were a "choice" why would anyone choose it when they would face such discrimination from the public? Wouldn't it be easier to just not choose to be gay? Whereas if it isn't a choice, but something that you either are or aren't, then the true sad road would be denying one's true feelings and ignoring even the possibility of finding love. Either way, I doubt tv shows will have much impact on the kids. My hope is that gay characters on television will help change the minds of bigoted and uninformed people.

As for Grey's, I could never watch it. It is a dramatic show whose drama comes chiefly from the stupidity of its title character. If Meredith didn't do such stupid things, there wouldn't be a show. I need to be able to empathize with my characters in order to sympatize with them and Grey's simply has no characters with which I can empathize.

As for My Name is Earl, this season hasn't been as strong as the first two, but the show is still much better then many other comedies on television.

Josh Man | Apr 29, 2008 10:55:40 AM | #

I agree Josh Man, Grey's drama does come mainly from Meredith's stupidity. I am still watching though but for the other characters. I'm get tired of waiting for good stories for them though may give it up after this season. With Meredith & Derek getting back together it will be back to their nonsense soon. As another person posted above, been there, done that.

Lily | Apr 29, 2008 11:21:08 AM | #

I think TPTB made the wrong decision in hyping the Mer/Der relationship for the return. As evidenced, only the die-hard fans are still interested in them.

Greys suffers from Meredith being one of the most annoying whiny self-obsessed characters ever. Like many have said, put her & the boring, repetitive Mer/Der saga on the backburner.

Write some decent storylines for the few remaining characters that people actually care about. Sandra Oh has been totally wasted this season.

Ratings were down to 16m for last week's ep, which is quite low for a premiere after such a long break. Episodes same time last year were gaining 20m.

At least Addison will be back this week (even if it's just for a guest appearance). Given the current state of Greys, I've enjoyed Private Practice far more this season & am looking forward to the 2nd Season this Fall.

Sam | Apr 29, 2008 11:25:46 AM | #

I think that Grey's suffers from the absence of Burke. I don't like the man, but his character was the more complex of the lot. As much as they try to make Merideth all complex and deep, she consistently comes across as whiney and angsty. I personally love Merideth. There's a lot of potential in that character and I think that too many are critical of Ellen when they should be upset with Shonda and company. Ellen does a lot, sometimes, with VERY LITTLE. Her all too excite "eureka, he's got a brain tumor" moment was probably the highlight of the night, in a very sick sort of way.

They've seemed to have forgotten about these characters. Cristina needs a legit storyline ASAP. Her extreme neuroses have been so utterly misused since Burke left. Izzy and George made sense to me, but they handled the relationship poorly. McSteamy is so over. And Merideth and Derek can't win. Put'em together and we get bored. Keep'em apart and we roll our eyes in annoyance. I'm hoping this final get together will be the last and that they find something interesting to do with this relationship.

Grey's should take a cue from Betty, as that show consistent celebrates its characters in all of their beauty and ugliness.

I miss Cameron and Chase desperately. The shakeup was interesting for awhile, but I haven't really connected to the newbies, except for cold-hearted bitch. Kumar and the Jew are both such complete non-entities. There's nothing much to like about them.

Michael | Apr 29, 2008 11:53:48 AM | #

Agree with Sam's comments 100% especially - "Like many have said, put her & the boring, repetitive Mer/Der saga on the backburner."

Bring some life back to the show. Instead of repeating storylines give us new ones with Lexie, Callie, Mark, Alex, Cristina - all the characters that have been underused for 4 seasons.

Kim | Apr 29, 2008 12:35:30 PM | #

I'm still watching and enjoying Grey's but two things would make me happier: kill off Izzie (hate her, hate her, hate her) and make Meredith happy. Seriously, is there a more depressing character on television (who isn't ill)?

Tracey | Apr 29, 2008 1:16:29 PM | #

So, this is a big question for TV Gal and everybody else out there:

For the next two weeks, my DVR has picked up something very odd on NBC, that their programming is now scheduled as 2.5 hours after when they should be (i.e. Thursday's comedy block is scheduled to start at 10:30). There is no pre-emptive sports happening to push the shows back, everything just seems displaced. I experimented last night with DVRing "Deal or No Deal" at 10:30 last night, but it grabbed what would have been in that spot any other week ("Medium").

It's clearly a programming problem, but it's also very extensive. Is Comcast majorly f-ing up? Is it miscommunication between NBC and Comcast? Is it just for Comcast in the San Francisco Bay Area?

I mean, I can deal by just recording things when they should be (even though they'll be referred to as other things), but if TV Gal has any insight, or the ability to contact the people responsible, I'd really like to know.

MarcDom7 | Apr 29, 2008 1:22:58 PM | #

Re: Grey's. I'd say kill off Christina. I mute the TV anytime she's on. And, I don't mind Meredith's problems. She's a broken person and it shows. It's what drives the show.

b | Apr 29, 2008 1:28:19 PM | #

YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDEN ME SERIOUSLY!!! GREY'S IS ONE OF THE BEST SITCOMS ON THE TUBE!!! BUT LIKE SOMEONE SAID EARLIER OR DIDN'T SAY THEY SHOULD HAVE STARTED THE NEW SEASON WITH THE ENDING OF THE LAST SEASON!! I MEAN HOW MANY SHOWS HAVE GUTS(THAT LOOK DAM REAL) I N A DR.S HAND? GOTA WATCH GREY'S

thycky-d-thyck | Apr 29, 2008 1:34:28 PM | #

thycky-d-thyck | Apr 29, 2008 1:34:34 PM | #

There's lots of "broken" people on tv, many with problems just as bad or worse than Meredith Grey. The difference for me is that I sympathize with those characters and I don't with her. She's whiney and way too angsty for someone her age. She behaves more like a young teen than a 35 year old woman. The constant "whatever" and things like "I'm standing over here" as communication showed just how immature the character is. I find nothing enjoyable in watching a 35 year old with an emotional age of about 15. The MerDer relationship would have been fine if the characters were 17 but they aren't. My preference is watching an adult love story and that doesn't appear to be part of GA's plans for any character.

Taryn | Apr 29, 2008 1:47:26 PM | #

I was actually pretty excited for the premire of Grey's last week, bu t the episode just kinda felt like one big downer. I felt bad for George and Christina but other than that... And yes, I agree with you on the Callie/Erica relationship. I love seeing lesbian relationshps potrayed on t.v. but sometimes a girl just needs a good friend.
Oh well, yay for the Ava and Addison returns!

Jen | Apr 29, 2008 2:22:20 PM | #

Let's hope that the same apathy greets Private Practice when it returns. I would love nothing more than to see both of these shows fade into oblivion. I know it's not likely in the near term, but one can hope.

Ronald | Apr 29, 2008 4:44:19 PM | #

Sam, you nailed it. As soon as Shonda announced that Meredith & Derek would end up together, there went any incentive for the MerDer haters to watch. Personally, I think the storyline is a mistake, but announcing it in advance was riduculous. I suspect a good portion of the 16 million people who tuned in this week did so to see if there were any compelling reasons to keep watching. The majority of posters here weren't thrilled, so I predict that number will keep going down, until the show finally fizzles away. Too bad that couldn't happen before George & Izzie hooked up, Burke left town and the show killed Meredith's stepmom.

Kathryn | Apr 29, 2008 6:06:48 PM | #

Guys, seriously, mine eyes are tired. This is a seriously long thread. Seriously! This is full of hate but I am not one of them.

Grey's Anatomy is easily still one of the best scripted shows on TV. I am still fully invested because unlike most of you, I still cheer for these characters. If I can't have Meredith, then I can live vicariously through McDreamy. This show is comprised of very talented actors and I think deep down some of you still have a smidge of care. Just give it some time to develop a couple
of new storylines.

C'mon, even the "Friends" we love faced a huge backlash.

Ritchie | Apr 29, 2008 8:51:57 PM | #

GREY'S SUCKS! They've run out of story ideas and have been going on fumes for the past two seasons. Boring and predictable as all hell. All of the characters are hateful and easily despised. Time to get some new writers in the room Shonda! Thought the strike would have put some fire under the big ass of yours.

Bob | Apr 30, 2008 12:59:58 AM | #

I'm still watch Grey's but I am not "glued" to it. It's return was like most every other returning show. I am not as excited about the new episodes and the returns as I am when the fall season kicks off. The strike hurt my TV watching. I am also really beyond fed up with how the networks handle shows. Men In Tree's is one main example. One of my favorite shows and one that I am still glued to and it has been pulled off and moved by ABC multiple, multiple times.

everwood | Apr 30, 2008 4:41:14 AM | #

If the comments on this blog are indicative, GA still stirs people up-- Alex, Bailey, and George remain reasons to watch for me, but they all need better storylines. When Daises and Sexy Money come back, I won't be the faithful Grey's watcher that I am now.

John | Apr 30, 2008 6:47:55 AM | #

On Grey's:

An awful show and I'm glad to see it's ratings and critical acclaim steadily decline.

On the Gossip Girl OMFG ad:

It is probably the most offensive commercial I have ever seen.

Nate | Apr 30, 2008 6:56:30 AM | #

Also, on Gay/Lesbian storylines on TV:

I won't stop watching a show just because there is a Gay/Lesbian storyline in it, (unless the rest of the show has gone sour), but those storylines aren't what I watch tv for and I don't believe every show needs a Gay
or Lesbian charachter.

Nate | Apr 30, 2008 7:02:59 AM | #

I'm still watching Grey's too. Parts of it are still enjoyable but I agree with the comments above - I'm not glued to it anymore. I want more storyline for the secondary characters like Alex, Cristina, Mark and not have them standing around for one line here or there about the Mer/Der drama. Mer/Der drama overtook the show and in my opinion its dragged the show down. I don't hate them, I've just become completely indifferent to them. They just bore me now. Too much drama has gone on for them to suddenly reunite this season. I find the fact that they are,and will take up all the screen time, annoying.

Nancy | Apr 30, 2008 8:47:26 AM | #

I stopped caring about/stopped watching Gray's Anatomy after Izzy & George slept together last season. It sounds like I haven't missed much.

Valerie | Apr 30, 2008 12:49:22 PM | #

I honestly do not see what the big deal was about the OMFG. It's not like it had the actual word. People need to stop being so uptight. Seriously.

As for OTH, I'm of the old school. I'm all for Brucas.

Potch | Apr 30, 2008 1:53:24 PM | #

I agree with Dex, way way way back at the top: The series lost a step when it lost Isaiah Washington. He brought a depth to the show that I can't quite put my finger on. The show has become trivial and banal; a McJoke of its McSelf. I don't care about the characters or what happens to them. I'm riding out the season and then I'm jumping off the Titanic.

Soul Reaper | Apr 30, 2008 3:18:03 PM | #

I kind of like Grey's but they have some of the hardest characters to like of any show out there. Meredith should have been dumped a long time ago. She is just a whiny basketcase. The rest of the characters are self centered brats.

Greg | Apr 30, 2008 3:48:38 PM | #

I want Brooke and Lucas back together! They are so much better than Peyton and Lucas ever were -- I never saw them together. They should bring Jake back for Peyton and let Brooke and Lucas be a happy little family. :)

Kelly | Apr 30, 2008 6:48:53 PM | #

I have been watching Grey's on and off since the ferry & drowning. That was just stupid. Izzie/George, Mer/Der and Meredith whining and drowning was just too much.

I will be watching Thursday though, can't wait to see Addison again. Burke and Addison leaving really hurt the show. They were the adults, the rest behave like adolescents, especially Meredith.

Kari | Apr 30, 2008 7:46:31 PM | #

I can't stand Grey's or Gossip Girl. The trashier TV becomes, the easier it is for me to turn it off.

Lanie | May 1, 2008 10:39:42 AM | #

GREY'S LOST ME AFTER SEASON 2. DONT LIKE IZZIE (OR K.HEIGL) MEREDITH APPEARS ANNOREXIC & HIDING IN SCRUBS,GEORGE DOES INDEED LOOK AS GAY AS HIS REAL LIFE COUNTERPART, SO MAYBE THEY SHOULD RUN WITH "THAT" STORY LINE..CAUSE HIM & IZZIE "SEXUALLY"?? NO, NOT BUYNG IT. DEREK IS CUTE BUT MEALY MOUTHED..I CAN BARELY HEAR HIM..AND CHRISTINA, WHO I SAW IN A MOVIE, SIDEWAYS? AND IS A GREAT COMEDIC ACTOR, IS WASTED AS THE TYPE A PSYCHO DR IN TRAINING..SO NOW I TAKE MY AMBIEN WHEN IT STARTS..AND I CANT WATCH BROTHERS & SISTERS TILL THEY KILL CALISTA..ANOTHER ANOREXIC WITCH..HIDING IN BIG CLOTHES..I CANNOT STAND THAT! CALISTA,MEREDITH?? YOU'RE NOT FOOLING US!! WE KNOW YOU DONT EAT! DO THAT STORYLINE!!
EARL..STUPID..GOSSIP GIRL..O.K. BUT SERENA IS JUST TOO SAINTLY FOR ME. OTHER THAN THAT..I JUST LOVE TV.!!!! LOL

liz | May 1, 2008 4:29:13 PM | #

is it just me or has the TV Gal message board been invaded by trolls?

madbard | May 1, 2008 10:58:59 PM | #

If Grey's is going to have a gay character why not this. Have someone go vist Dr. Bruke and come back an tell everyone the reason he didn't marry Christina was because he could no longer fight his attraction to men.

Gregg | May 2, 2008 7:24:50 AM | #

Gregg | May 2, 2008 7:25:07 AM | #

I am So surprised at all of the GA haters here. Come on, its a great show and it is definately getting back on track. I think Shonda has shown from these last 2 episodes that she is getting GA back to all the fun, humor and drama. And if people didn't really care about GA, why are they complaining????????

GaFan | May 3, 2008 12:45:09 PM | #

omg is a disgusting ad.i wlllll not not watcch this cra.......

raphael | May 3, 2008 2:12:09 PM | #

MadBard,

It is just you.

Troll

Troll | May 6, 2008 7:51:29 PM | #

Personally I love Izzie but they are really making her seem pathetic and weak. Toughen her up. She grew up in a trailer park for the love of mike. Give her some good juicy material. Not this constant leeching stuff she does. Wish Mer had died. I cant stand her constant unhappiness for no reason. Bring back Burke. Man this show is just done for me on so many levels.

Tierra | May 8, 2008 6:22:31 PM | #

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