Angelina Jolie, Nadya Suleman, Mia Farrow: Who's the biggest mama?

Angelina Jolie and Mia Farrow can afford helpers to keep their children's lives healthy and supervised: nannies, someone to do some cooking, someone to do the laundry, someone to keep the Legos off the floor. And they didn't have eight newborns at once, babies who won't even be able to hold their own bottles for a while. Suleman's only helpers are her mother, who has said she's planning to leave and visit relatives in Europe soon, imaginary church members who say they don't know her and never volunteered to help, and an imaginary helper she made up so that she wouldn't look quite so irresponsible as she headed out to do things like having her nails done. (I can't blame her mother. Leaving may be her way of forcing the State to step in and make sure the 14 children get care.) The State would close down a nursery if there was a ratio of one adult to 14 children--8 of them newborns--never mind about the mess and the food smeared on the walls. Are the rules different if a disturbed, lying woman happens to have given birth to all of them? She can't pay for them; she can't get them all in a car so she can supervise them during a trip to the market or the doctor; the donations and volunteers and TV show starring her as a child care expert that she figured she'd get aren't happening. She can't afford to feed them or buy them all cribs and diapers, she spends a mere 45 minutes a day with each newborn--whadda Mom!--and she can't possibly keep them all fed and clean. Imagine bath time! It is abolutely imperative that social workers do a thorough work-up of whether the babies will actually survive in the home of this supposed wondermother. The children deserve better than this.

The Nadya story is a mind field fueled with lies and a mine field to walk through. Listed as father on the birth certificates of Nadya's four oldest children is David Soloman, man purported to be the sperm donor. The creepy thing is that "DAVID" is an Anglicized version of "DOUD" and "SOLOMON" is an Anglicized version of "SULEMAN" which is the two family names Nadya herself has used at various times. Is there a real David Soloman or is it a madeup name? Nadya's father uses the name Ed Doud Suleman. Anglicized, dropping the Ed (which is not an Iraqian name) you have DAVID SOLOMON. Coincidence or Edipus story? The Edipus complex, often called Electra complex, is one where a daughter has an attraction and fixation on her father in rivalry with her mother; desires to rid mother, sleep with father and bear his children. A recent blurb: Nadya's sperm donor is a Mexican/American married California cop; her x-boyfriend who donated sperm for sereral of her prior six babies; was "tricked" into thinking they would marry. Knew NADA about fathering more babies.

Suleman claims she "wanted one more girl". Embryos can be sexed before implanting. Why 6 boys born? Putting her children at risk, she has 6 unsexed embroys planted despite the fact she already has a gene pool going that produced twins with mild speech impediments with tiny bit of autism, one child with autism and another with ADHD. Three out of six is not good odds. 50% of the eight newborns eventually could be found disabled also and end up on SSI.

I shan't class Sulemans as LOW INCOME but I shall class them as shrewd. Do Angela and Ed Suleman, who are divorced and live with Nadya and her six children, each claim Nadya and her six children as their dependents when each filing their separate 1040's? Their separate federal income tax filing forms? Does Ed Suleman still claim his X-wife as a dependant? Does the X-wife claim herself? Suleman clan's estimated monthly incomes flowing into the Suleman family household based on reports: (give or take) Nadya's SSI for disabled children , Angela's retirement income and SS check, Ed's income ($100,000 yr) and ($ 500) food stamps put Suleman clan's monthly income(S) up there somewhere in the vicinity of $15,000 MONTHLY. If I was Social Health Services, I'd sure take a peek at the Suleman's 1040's. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. The Suleman clan has indeed been blowing a lot of smoke.

Nadya shows little if any cognitive awareness. Oviously she is quite unresponsible. In our society, you can be crazy as a hoot owl as long as you are no harm to self and others. Doctors don't have the right to "do harm"; act unresponsible. Do no harm is the OATH all doctors take in order to practice. American Society for Reproductive Medicine, ASRM for short, indeed has guidelines when it comes to IVF treatment. Here they are: ASRM's guidelines indicate that only one fertilized embryo should be planted per patient. If the woman has faced medical challenges to conception, two may be used. NEVER six or eight. Nadya Suleman had IVF prior that was successfull, no trouble conceving via IVF. Nadya had six children. Implanting six embroys is unconciable and way outside ASRM guidelines. PLUM CRAZYNESS. Goody-two-shoes and do-gooders, think ENABLING the irresponsible is a deed of kindness, usually reasonable and responsible soft-hearted members of society. But, they should NOT fall into the trap of enabling what is obviously stark wrong and highly socially unacceptable. Enabling teaches irresponsible people someone will always be there to BAIL them out. Society's role is not to become a co-dependant to the irresponsible. The only way we better society is to make the irresponsible become responsible for their OWN actions. The Goodwill Industry motto: "Feed a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and you feed him for life." How is that working for Nadya? It had not worked! Calculating years Nadya actually fished for herself,you come up somwhere near 2 years and she is now 33 years old with 24 children living with her parents. Nadya has been enabled by her parents and the system she bilked and milked. She needs to get out of the bread line. When is ENOUGH ENOUGH? Nadya doesn't need enabling, sympathy or funding. What she REALLY needs is years of counseling and extended parenting classes. ENTER CPS.

Nadya just might be able to make it work IF she can:

*Get into Section 8 housing,(of course, it will take three apartments to house them all)

*Get all 14 kids on the Medicaid health insurance program

*Get SSI Disability payments (like she already has for three of her children) for all eight newborns, which they will probably all qualify for

*Make sure that her own disability claim becomes permanent

*Use the money from the disability payements to hire at least two nannies to help out with the children

*Get a Commercial Driver's License so she can drive the old, out-of-service school bus she will need to take her children to the play ground, day care, church, etc.

Okay, maybe she can persuade the hired nannies to help out with transportation and they can travel in a caravan of mini-vans. At any rate, if Nadya can't pull this off, the state of California will most certainly have to step in to protect the welfare of the children.

This is a sad, sad situation.

I'ts a sure bet that Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of a state that is billions of dollars in the red, is concerned over the staggering financial burden the octuplets' family may lay on the state of California, including a possible $1 million hospital bill. The audacity of Nadya Suleman to set up a website expecting the PUBLIC to support her shows she has no concious, thinks she deserves to be taken care of has no remores for actions. That is the sign of a psychopathic personality. Those babies deserve a far better life than she is prepared to be able to give them and are young enough to bond with other than Nadya who has not been their primary caregiver; octuplets hospital care expected to last 12 weeks. In no way should Nadya be able to take those babies home without an evaluation of her mental stability. We're paying for woman held in prison for killing all their children. Just like Angela Suleman, Nadya's mother ~~ relatives, neighbors and friends claimed those mothers loved their children too. Did they really? Actions speak louder than words. Our duty as responsible citizens and governing agencys to be advocates for those who can not speak for themselves. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." The reasonable must act where the unresponsible can't. And, that does not mean surfing to Nadya's web and getting out your credit card and donating to the aftermath of a bad cause. It means to get out your pen, write letters to those in authority requesting they act in the best interest of the children.

Recent flash indicates 2nd time foreclosure for Suleman family; house where octuplets' mom lives in danger of foreclosure re a default notice filed 9th of this month due past $23,224 on a loan. House bought in 2006 by Sulemans for $605,000 entered pre-foreclosure, scheduled sale, June 9th, 09. Suleman's house loan over $450, 000. If Nadya Suleman hasn't said she got $100,000 from U.S tabloids. $227,000 from British tabloids and Angela Suleman hasn't said she got $40,000 from an exclusive interview, which totals near $370, 000, be sure you will never knows how much else is taken in at Nadya's web. "A fool and his money is soon parted."

Angelina Jolie isn't well. She's a very sick woman who is using those children to pose as a humanitarian. her humanitarian trips are timed to tear down her rivals. These trips profit her image at least as much, if not more, than those she claims to be helping. She's still the circus freak she was a decade ago. Except ifstead of drugs and kniefs, she now has dumb Brad Pitt and innocent children as props to keep attention focused on her. Her daddy said it all along, she is very ill. He's was right. He's still right. She needs help. She may have something along the psychotic narcissism spectrum. No number of awards/no number of pretty dresses will change the fact she is sick. It's a matter of time before she takes down everyone around her who's associated with her. Our studio chiefs, our LA papers need to look beyond the surface and see this person for the poison she is. Our town should show her for what she is. Stop helping her destroy others. Remove her mask, she is daring you to.

I believe Mia has 15 children, four biological. She has adopted children with special needs, continues her work thoughtfully and quietly for the UN, acts occasionally, lives in CT.

Mia has earned my respect.

It's OPHRA TIME -- Grandfather Suleman is scheduled to appear on her show. Harpo rep tells Us magazine --. "It is slated to air February 24." Next Tuesday. Also, Nadya appears on the cover of latest edition of Us mag.

Tis sure will increase mag sales and Oprah viewers alike. Prior to scheduling Suleman, Oprah stated, " we do not pay our guests."

Regardless, obivous the

Suleman Clan has their rake out ready to scoop up the money from greedy paws of eager -beaver mags, ripe and ready, will dish to Suleman's Pity Pot in hopes of an increase in their mag sales. You can boycott these mags and not turn on Opie. Drawing in that MONEY is the name of game for ALL involved.

For the curious-minded, tune in and rush to the mag stand. By cracky, I think I will. :-) :-) :-)

Reason for Nadya coming under fire and being persecuted at this time is due to her becoming hot copy. It is undeniable, her situation isn't unique as far as freeloading goes. However,it is totally bizarre. Nadya is a first, one of a kind! Never been this kind of irrational and intentional birthing in the history of U.S. Hopefully, will be the last!! No defense good enough to ever explain away risking infant lives and life of a mother. Hitler would have loved to have Nadya in his selective breeding camp.

It's OPIE TIME -- Grandfather Suleman is scheduled to appear on her show. Harpo rep tells UsMagazine ~ "It is slated to air February 24." Next Tuesday. Also, Nadya appears on the cover of new edition of Us mag. Tis sure to increase mag sales and Oprah viewers alike. Prior to scheduling Suleman, Oprah stated, " we do not pay our guests." But, regardless, is obivous the Suleman Clan has their rake out ready to scoop up the money from greedy paws of eager -beaver mags, ripe, ready & willing to dish out to fund Suleman's Pity Pot in hopes of an increase in their mag sales. You have a choice in the matter, can boycott these mags and not turn on Opie. Drawing in that MONEY is the name of game for ALL involved.

For the curious-minded, tune in and rush to the mag stand. By cracky, I think I will.

BAD GENE POOL ~~ The Universal Law of cause and affect prevails; the wheel is round, what goes around, comes around. Nadya and parents made the causes for the affect that has come upon them. Their unresponsibility is not our responsibility. Losing homes and having at risk births have proven to be patterns with Nadya and Suleman family. Shows they have not learned from past errors. Doomed to repeat!! Those who haven't learned from the past,repeat in the present. Repeat and repeat! Those who learn from past errors, clean up their act. Nadya is capable of working at something besides screwing the government and bringing nothing to the table and adding nothing to the pot. Parasitic! Parasitic social degeneration should not be glorified. If the eight innocent are raised in Nadya or her parent's crazy world, they too will be crazy and doomed to a life of leech-hood. Nadya and her parents have shown they are basket cases. Poor role models.

Adoption is the option. Nadya is not a sacred cow who can breed normally as nature intended or produce quality offspring and milk. The Prime Mover saw fit to plug Nadya's tubes early on. Prime Mover knows best.

Atty. Gloria Allred filed a complaint with officals of the county last week to spur an investigation to determine if Nadya's 14 children would be in danger left in her care.

"Angels of Mercy" -foster care services at the same time offered (at no cost) to care for Nadya's 14 children for six months, giving a week for Nadya to agree or disagree. Gloria expressed her opinion regarding if Nadya refuses their offer. "Suleman could have all her children taken away."