'Lost': Place your bets
Alrighty, kiddies, it's gambling time. We're on the verge of a big reveal on Lost: the identity of all members of the Oceanic 6. And as such, it's time to take a good, long, hard, non-spoilery look at potential candidates to flesh out the final two positions in this group.
"Non-spoilery, did you say?" Yes, fair reader, I in fact said non-spoilery. I don't know who the last two will be. And if you do, and decide to drop that insider knowledge in the comment section below, well, you'll have failed at life, non-friend. I'm 6'5'', and watched The Karate Kid at least twenty-seven times. You don't want me using the Crane technique on you. I'm the best...around...and no one's gonna keep me down!
"Final two positions, did you say?" Yes, astute reader. While many assume Aaron was the fifth member of the Oceanic 6, I will hold off judgment until the show renders it official. As you'll see below, I don't think it's improbable that he's a member; it's just that I don't automatically include him as one at this time.
So, here's what's gonna happen. I'm going to rank each possible remaining member of the Oceanic 6 according to likelihood of their inclusion in the group. We know four: Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Hurley. What follows is every conceivable other person that I could make up the final two, ranging from "oh Lord in heaven, no" to "absolutely" in my own personal non-spoiled opinion.
I did not list anyone who died on the Island since the show's inception, since I'm a strong believer that "dead is dead," and I didn't include any original member of The Others currently chillin' at the Temple. In addition, I'm not listing the Chopperettes here, although a few of you have come up with some compelling theories that everything in "Confirmed Dead" was in fact a flash forward, not a flash back. I want to think about that more, and watch more of Season 4, before commenting more fully on that. But in any case, given how they are introduced, I think we can safely exclude them from the Oceanic 6. Everyone else, though? Fair game.
Without further ado, onto the list, with odds listed in parentheses.
Frogurt (3,000-1)
Yea, um, it's not Frogurt. (Someday, I will stop making jokes about this peripheral character. But readers, today is not that day.)
Christian Shephard (400-1)
Now, this would be eeeenteresting. This only really has two things going for it: Jack slurringly asking for his father in the flash forward in "Through the Looking Glass" and my keen curiosity to see how this would play out. As I said before, I'm ruling out anyone that's died on the Island since the start of the show, but Christian "died" beforehand, and given his momentary appearance in Jacob's cabin, I'm not ruling this option out. But I'm giving it long odds.
Juliet (200-1)
I have to say that I can't imagine any major character having a harder time leaving the Island than Juliet. After that whole "YOU'RE MINE" business in "The Other Woman," I can't see her ever leaving the Island while Ben still breathes. And since Ben's breathing well and good in Sayid's flash forward, I have to say she's not one of the Oceanic 6. (Plus there's that little pesky "she wasn't actually on the plane" thing standing in the way.)
Danielle/Alex/Karl (195-1)
They weren't on the plane, seemed really quick to join Team Locke in "The Beginning of the End," and oh yeah, they weren't on the plane.
Desmond (175-1)
His story may, in time, be seen as even more important to the overall story of Lost than that of the Oceanic 6. But that story lies elsewhere. In fact, were he a member of the Oceanic 6, this would allow him to reunite with Penny, something I hope happens later rather than sooner for maximum payoff. While he was also not actually on Oceanic 815, I'm willing to buy a conspiracy theory by which Desmond poses as a member of Oceanic 815 towards purposes conceived by Penny/Charles Widmore/Ms. Hawking. Again, it's a long shot, but it's still more likely than any of the above, no?
Cindy/Emma/Zack (150-1)
While all onboard when the plane went down, they are too peripheral and too Room 23'ed to really qualify. You're not dragging any of them from the Temple; as far as they know, they are home. And jacob loves them.
Vincent (125-1)
Hey, just being a completist here.
Ben (100-1)
Given his manipulative abilities, vast financial resources, and host of passports, it's not terribly far-fetched to conceive of a plot in which Ben agrees to take five people off the Island as a way to rope-a-dope Charles Widmore. Biggest negative? In "The Economist," no one knows the identity of Sayid's boss. Somehow, I think Ben as an internationally known crash survivor would compromise his status as shady leader of assassins. Then again, this is Ben we're talking about, so anything's possible.
Rose/Bernard (80-1)
Too peripheral to the Lost story to be involved in a major plot arc such as the Oceanic 6, plus she's stated that should she leave the Island, she worries that her cancer would return. That all being said, I've long, long wondered why Rose thought the monster sounded so familiar back in Season 1. And despite Rose's assertions to the contrary, Bernard is kinda like Rambo.
Sawyer (75-1)
Sawyer off the Island? Feels totally wrong in my bones. He's either the coward that stays behind while Kate leaves, or he's the ultimately redeemed man who sacrifices his life to help her get off the Island. Sawyer's also first in our list of "People That Would Make The Oceanic 6 Happy If They Made It Off the Island, and Therefore Instantly Eliminated from Contention."
Claire (45-1)
Desmond's visions are still in play, and it's safe to assume at some point we'll see her get on Lapidus' chopper. But since we know from "Eggtown" she's mysteriously absent, Desmond's vision is called into question. Is she still on the Island? Is she dead? Or is there a third option: Claire returns, but for reasons yet to explained, asks Kate to pretend the child is hers? We really haven't yet seen the parents who anxiously awaited Claire's unborn child in Los Angeles; maybe there's a very good reason for such deception. Unlikely? Perhaps, but it's possible, and I can see Claire getting off the Island more than anyone else previously listed.
Aaron (15-1)
I'd rank Aaron higher if, you know, he hadn't already appeared on the show. For some, it was confirmation he was a member of the Oceanic 6. For others, it was an intentional mislead, just another in a show full of them. (First scene of "The Other Woman," anyone?) I'm leaning towards the latter, although my odds should demonstrate that I wouldn't find it surprising should he in fact be the fifth revealed member of the Oceanic 6.
Jin (12-1)
Pros: It's his flashback tomorrow. It's his kid on the way. It's his pecs that haunt my dreams. (Whoops, I said that using my out-loud voice.) Cons: Remember what I said about Sawyer and the happiness of the Oceanic 6? And notice how we haven't see his wife on this list yet? Exactly.
Locke (10-1)
Now this one really, really intrigues me. Having Locke leave the Island would be a bold choice, one that would render all on-Island actions vastly more interesting. Locke's also a leading contender for "Guy in the Coffin" from "Through the Looking Glass." He'd be even higher if I could think of a compelling reason for him to leave the Island. "Saving the lives of Team Jack" doesn't ring quite true to me. Maybe it's just a "wrong place, wrong time" scenario. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if we get another glimpse of what exactly Locke was doing on that submarine last season. Just sayin'.
Michael/Walt (7-1)
This is an either/or deal. I can't see any scenario in which both are members of the Oceanic 6, but I can easily see a scenario in which on-freighter activities liberates Sayid at the expense/life of the other. Given that, I'd suggest Michael would sacrifice his life for Walt's. Not that Walt hates his dad, but it would be a fitting end to Michael's arc: redemption on both a paternal level and a fraternal level. On the other hand, an Oceanic 6 Michael would be suitably depressed (a key component of any member of the group) and equally likely to be the "Man in the Coffin. " As for his son...well, you have to admit that Walt could be a powerful resource should the Oceanic 6 try and get back to the Island.
Sun (3-2)
If this show kills Sun via Island pregnancy complications, they might as well replace Michael Giacchino's score and replace it with choice selections from The Cure, The Smiths, and Joy Division. Then, each episode can feature flash forwards of the Oceanic 6 moping about, dressed in black, drinking heavily, and updating their LiveJournal pages. The show simply wouldn't recover from the morbid blow Sun's death would cause. Now, once off the Island, post-childbirth? She's as fair game as anyone. But that's another issue entirely. We're talking about the odds of membership of the Oceanic 6. And she's as sure a bet as there is.
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So there's my list. Now it's your turn. What did I get right? What did I completely flub? Post your own Oceanic 6, and remember, keep it spoiler-free! Unlike most mysteries on the show, we'll all be able to know just how we did sooner rather than later. So leave your best guess below!
Ryan also posts every 108 minutes over at Boob Tube Dude.
I vote for Frogurt
Al | Mar 12, 2008 6:40:09 PM | #how about the other 2? the whole bit about 8 making it to the island, and 6 living through it...
i will put my $$ on Sun/Jin both making it alive, and the 2 dead as Claire/Sawyer (b/c he'll follow Kate anywhere).
mri | Mar 12, 2008 6:41:52 PM | #oh, i'm assuming that there needed to be a cover story for 2 bodies that came along with the O6 or something...
mri | Mar 12, 2008 6:43:40 PM | #I didn't even try to think about the other two, with knowledge about them so circumspect at this point I felt like I should limit my odds on the Oceanic 6. I try to be completely wrong about only one thing per day, heh.
Ryan | Mar 12, 2008 6:46:34 PM | #Based on the previews, I'm voting for Sun and Jin as the final two members of the Oceanic 6.
But if Jin somehow doesn't make it off the island, I wouldn't mind. He's one of my least favorite characters and wouldn't mind seeing him make himself a meal for ol' Smokey.
Matt | Mar 12, 2008 6:52:47 PM | #I'm going with the favorite, Sun and for my long shot I'll take Claire, because it would be just the kind of twist they'd do after showing us that Kate has Aaron. Who's holding the money?
Shari | Mar 12, 2008 7:03:06 PM | #My money's on Christian Shephard.
Kate | Mar 12, 2008 7:49:58 PM | #Unfortunately I must opt out of this bet due to the fact that I read the spoilers on this months ago. I'm kicking myself for it now, but at the time I was just trying to get at much LOST information as I could when it was off the air. As a regular participant in this blog, I agree that it should remain spoiler-free.
Shaggysteve | Mar 12, 2008 8:44:12 PM | #Shaggysteve you just stopped me from making a mistake. I was about to place my bet as well, but like you, I saw the spoilers about this episode and the ones following it and it would be just utterly wrong if I did that. One other thing I love about the show is that no matter if I come across a spoiler or not I am still shocked and surprised at the outcome or other outcomes.
I so can't wait till tonight. I have my respirator ready, my best friend on speed dial, and a crash cart for the multiple times I will need to be resuscitated... Yes, LOST gets that crucial for me sometimes...
Mark O. Estes | Mar 12, 2008 11:49:07 PM | #From the way the trailer of tommorow's episode was set up, it looks like Michael's return will happen right at the end of the episode, within the last few minutes. So, I'm ruling him out as an Oceanic 6.
Locke or Ben is my best guess for the person in the coffin; no real family, no real friends, and Jack depressed at having removed this person from the Island they loved so much, to die alone in the "real world". So, it stands to reason that if its Locke, he's an Oceanic 6.
My best guess though is that its either Sun or Jin (not both), and someone completely, utterly unexpected.
Other Sean | Mar 13, 2008 12:43:11 AM | #i REALLY hope that it is sun!!!
shane | Mar 13, 2008 5:21:04 AM | #I still think that Aaron is one of them so my other guess is Sun. I guess we will find out tonight.
Blue Sean | Mar 13, 2008 5:52:58 AM | #My best guess-
The 8 who survived the crash
(The 4 reveals) Sun, Jin, Michael, and Walt.
The Oceanic 6: The reveals, Sun & Michael.
I think the foreshadowing of a relationship between Sun & Michael point to this. Where Aaron fits in I have no idea.
Mike in RI | Mar 13, 2008 6:06:01 AM | #Can't really believe that Michael or Walt will be making it off the island. Michael will be payin-the-piper for his deal with the devil. Walt IMHO is already dead. I say this with no spoiler knowledge. Maybe the the Lost game has some clues? JUST KIDDING!!!!
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 6:11:59 AM | #When I say Walt is dead, let me hedge a little by stating that I don't think that Walt is "of this world" any longer (or shorter depending how you percieve time).
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 6:21:09 AM | #I'm spoiler-free as well, but am guessing it's Sun and Michael who make it out alive.
1) There's the tragedy aspect of Jin and Sun being separated.
2) The connection between Michael and Sun in previous seasons
3) This further ups the ante on Michael's return as it makes him even MORE of a pariah in a dramatic-irony / WTF sort-of-way.
Looking forward to tonight!
Stan | Mar 13, 2008 6:26:49 AM | #Shaggysteve, I'm in the exact same "boat" as you. Except my wife is the one that uncovered that little gold nugget. I think she's even spoiled the death for this episode, too.
By the way, the other two survivors (the ones that bring the total to 8) are inconsequential and in fact don't exist. They're just part of Jack's lie.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 6:31:36 AM | #I hear you guys. It looks like the conventional wisdom says that Michael makes it off and that Jin & Sun will be seperated. I don't know, I've got a feeling that with the impending birth, daddy has got to be there. A birthing scene in television-land would be just too depressing without daddy there. That is the reason that with further thought, I'm laying the money down on the expecting couple. There done.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 6:40:16 AM | #Something tells me it's going to be hard for me to feel surprised for the twists this episode. Ah well, it'll be fun to watch anyhow.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 6:48:27 AM | #I dunno, I think a birthing scene with the creepy returnee who has previous sins of being a bad father and is put in the situation of being the only guy available to help is totally within Lost's writing wheelhouse...
Especially when you consider all the daddy issues that pop up in this show, this'd be another one to add to the list.
Stan | Mar 13, 2008 6:49:47 AM | #Ryan, you said: "I've long, long wondered why Rose thought the monster sounded so familiar back in Season 1."
It's a bit of an in-joke. One of the sound effects used to voice Smokey was of a taxi cab receipt printer. Since Rose was from the Bronx, it's a sound she likely heard many times. http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_%22Monster%22#Sounds
| Mar 13, 2008 6:50:31 AM | #Doubt, if you will, my Jin & Sun prediction. I have a clear picture in mind of a slow-motion, post-birth, musical montage with both mommy and daddy canoodling with little "Moon" with the weepy piano music building to a loving crescendo.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 7:54:18 AM | #i'm with BotN on this one. Jin and Sun.
mri | Mar 13, 2008 8:05:43 AM | #I think the candidacy for "man in the coffin" should be eliminated as a factor for determining the final two members of the Oceanic Six. (a little late, I know)
Obviously, the Six are international celebrities. If the man in the coffin was one of the Six, Jack wouldn't have been the only one to attend the funeral. That being said, it's gets us no closing to determining who the final two are.
I would expect to see Sun and Jin, but Sun and Michael or Locke would be fascinating.
Ken | Mar 13, 2008 8:09:51 AM | #I think 'Oceanic 6' implies they were on the original manifest. That would leave out most of your longshots (as you mention with the 'not on the plane' references).
I like the 'Locke is the guy in the coffin' idea. When Jack confirms that no one came to see the viewing, I immediately thought of Locke.
Everyone is betting Sun, so there must be a spoiler about it somewhere. No way this many people 'predict' Sun who has been almost completely absent from Season 4 without some outside influence.
Having not read the spoilers, I'd guess Michael and Walt make it off and Jin/Locke are the dead +2 (8 but 2 died).
Even if the "Dead 2" (doesn't have as much of a ring as "Oceanic 6") are a part of Jack's lie, who's to say that the two named in that spot must be currently alive on the show? After all, Charlie survived the plane crash but could still be considered for candidacy for the "Dead Two" for fabrication purposes.
Micheal may be the "spy" on the boat, but I don't think he's one of the oceanic 6. He's probably still undercover for Ben somewhere, and didn't get back home. Yet. He'll find a way to double cross Ben and eventually bring everyone back home.
My vote is Sun and Sawyer...I think Sawyer would follow Kate anywhere. She probably IS really pregnant and Aaron now, is just her cover story, still keeping her own pregnancy a secret from Sawyer. Claire remaining on the island to give her son a life away from the island.
| Mar 13, 2008 8:30:22 AM | #How could Confirmed Dead be flashforwards instead of flashbacks? One scene shows Naomi alive, violating the "dead means dead" rule. Plus when Frank saw the TV news that the plane was found, his objection wouldn't be that he knew the pilot always wore a ring, it would be that he had met the survivors and seen the plane on an island! The only possible way flashbacks would make sense in that episode is if some were forward and some were back. And I don't see them doing that (or at least not handling it in that way).
I have to agree that it seems doubtful that the person in the coffin would be an O6 since at the very least there would be media interest in the death. Celebrity funerals don't go completely unattended.
I'll recuse myself on speculation of the O6 having heard potential spoilers (I've also heard more recently that what I heard may be false, so who knows), and simply say nice work on the article - thoughtful analysis as usual.
milo | Mar 13, 2008 9:03:52 AM | #Interesting that this article speculates about the O6 identities but not who the man on the boat is. Is that being saved for a future blog, or is it too obvious to be worth discussing?
milo | Mar 13, 2008 9:05:52 AM | #Great deduction Ryan! 2 quick things - I always assumed that the parents waiting for Claire didn't actually exist. I thought the psychic just said that to her to get her on the plane because he knew it'd crash, thus saving the world from her son.
Second, do you believe that the other two people who survived the crash but died on the island are real? Meaning, do you think that is just part of the O6's story or do you think that 8 of them leave the island and two die? Or two are killed? Or something else?
Thanks!
"Everyone is betting Sun, so there must be a spoiler about it somewhere. No way this many people 'predict' Sun who has been almost completely absent from Season 4 without some outside influence."
Did you see the preview for this episode? With the promo saying that we'll find out the last of the O6 and then making Sun and Jin the most prominent part of the promo, is it surprising that people would guess one or both of them?
milo | Mar 13, 2008 9:10:26 AM | #Milo: I put Sun at 3-2 specifically due to the promo, exactly.
As for the man on the boat: it's either Michael or an option so far out there that only post-appearance explanation could try and parse it. So I left it out.
Tonester: a similiar thought went into intentionally omitting the two dead people Jack mentioned on the witness stand. Rather than try and wrack my brain as to potential reasons Person X would be revealed to the world as dead, I'd rather and wait and see if the show reveals if anyone saw their bodies or if its just an agreed upon cover story.
As for a member of 06 being in the coffin: unlikely, perhaps (which is why I have Ben as a leading candidate, up there with Locke and Michael). But, would either Locke or Michael WANT such attention, really? Locke would be haunted by losing his island, and Michael would be haunted by his actions on the Island.
Plus, it's unclear exactly how long has passed between "rescue" and "Through the Looking Glass." Even if if it's 2 years, that's eons in terms of pop culture phenomenon. I watch Saturday Night Live episodes from even 2-3 years ago and I don't remember the people/events that they are parodying.
But your points are still well taken.
Ryan | Mar 13, 2008 9:20:59 AM | #Who the man on the boat is isn't really worth discussing, since it's so obvious. However, how he got there most definitely is!
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 9:22:30 AM | #Do you think we might be getting set-up by Darlton and Co. with Michael being the man on the boat? I mean, they announce him at Comic-Con, put him in the credits (even though his contract says he is to be listed in all episodes), and then prolong the wait to reveal this person on the boat. Maybe we are supposed to believe it is Michael and they pull someone out of left-field to dupe us. That way, they trick the hard-core fans like us while also tricking the mainstream audience who doesn't read these blogs or follow-up on castings. I don't know, I still think it is Michael but I would not be totally shocked if we are hoodwinked.
I agree with Jeff when he says he is more interested in how Michael (if it is him) got on the freighter. Also, how is he getting instructions from Ben? Did Ben know the freighter was out there way back at the end of the second season and give Michael further instructions on how to get on the freighter and what to do? How the hell does Ben know that if this is the case?
Blue Sean | Mar 13, 2008 9:46:41 AM | #If Michael or Locke were O6, I doubt either would want *any* attention, but from what we've seen from the other characters, the O6 are all famous, like it or not.
When a celebrity dies, they don't have any control over how much publicity their funeral gets, do they? If the FF is years later, their fame would have died down a bit, but zero attendees at the funeral? Seems unlikely. Especially when there's mention in that same episode of Jack being "twice a hero" implying that the O6 thing hasn't been forgotten yet.
milo | Mar 13, 2008 9:50:14 AM | #Blue Sean, unfortunately I can't reply because of certain spoilers I've read (God, I have to stop reading those).
I can see the person in the casket being Michael. Locke's never leaving that island. Michael, on the other hand, has reason to go back home if Walt is still there. But no one would go to the funeral of someone who has an assumed identity, which I totally think Michael has, and he definitely wouldn't be considered on the the O6.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 9:59:00 AM | #*one of the O6*, I mean
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 10:00:59 AM | #I think you may have a point there Jeff. It has been my feeling since the S3 finale that Michael was the man in the coffin. He changed his name once he got home and then killed himself over the guilt he felt for what transpired on the island. It also seemed to me that when they showed Jack pull up to the funeral home it was located in a predominantly african american neighborhood.
If this is the case he could not have been one of the 6. He could have gotten off the island without any attention and took Walt to LA to live in anonymity. This leaves my prediction of who the remaining member of the O6 is besides Sun.
Mike in RI | Mar 13, 2008 10:06:22 AM | #I'd put the odds of Locke leaving closer to a million to one because he ain't leaving that island. He'd die first. Of all the characters on the show, he has the least to go home to.
Hopefully Sun will be one of them because i just don't see them killing her. I don't think Jin gets off, but then again if this is his show he probably will be one of the Six too.
By the way, Ryan, I 100% completely agree about Sawyer.
I love him to death and he's one of my favorite characters, but that man is never leaving the island and will, dare I say, end up sacrificing himself to save every single person on the island before the end.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 12:11:20 PM | #i agree that Sawyer will end up sacrificing himself...be it on or (possibly) on his way off the island.
mri | Mar 13, 2008 12:41:47 PM | #I think the man on the boat may not be so obvious. I personally think it may be Sayid. Think about it, when he and Desmond went into the communication room, Sayid said it looked like a professional had torn everything up.
Sayid=communications guru.
Also, we already know Sayid is working with Ben in the flash forward. Could Ben have showed Sayid the power of island and allowed him to use it to do his bidding, i.e. try to foil Widmore's ability to reach or make contact with the island?
Of course the logical response would be to say that obviously Sayid isn't fainting every two seconds and we have not seen him remember being on the boat at any time. But don't you think Ben knows how to use the island and it's properties without the side effects? Obviously he travels back and forth with ease without any problem (or maybe the tumor was his side effect).
I am just saying, maybe this whole "man on the boat" is not so cut and dry.
MJ | Mar 13, 2008 12:42:14 PM | #Yeah, but it really is that cut and dry. This'll be the biggest non mystery in a long time on Lost.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 12:55:49 PM | #On a side note, I can't wait for Zoe Bell.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 12:57:04 PM | #Haven't been spoiler-trolling at all! Any prediction that I make is predicated soley on the feelings that I'm getting watching the show and, more importantly, how I would write it. My other prediction is that Ben is the only person that could have been in the coffin in TTLG. He's the only one that makes sense. The only one that would have left the island without fanfare. (I mean no fanfare whatsoever.) And he's the only one with zero emotional attachments in the "real world" (or even the island for that matter).
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 1:04:10 PM | #It's possible, but I just can't see Ben dying off-Island.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 1:34:42 PM | #Quite the contrary, Jeff. Off-island is the ONLY place that I see Ben dying.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 1:45:08 PM | #I subscribe to "Ben in the Coffin" digest. I think this is the reason why Jack is nuts in TTLG. Ben and Sayid were working their magic to keep the O6 safe and, now that Ben has died, they are no longer being protected. I think I read this theory on this blog and I totally less than three it.
Blue Sean | Mar 13, 2008 1:57:14 PM | #Blue Sean - totally agree. That's why Jack goes ape-s%$t.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 2:01:34 PM | #Alright fellas, I will concede that it is indeed possible that it's Ben, but I've got Michael as a close second possibility.
At any rate, enjoy the show tonight!
Cheers.
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 2:01:57 PM | #I mean more ape-s%$t than usual. Specifically insisting to Kate that they have to "go back...to the future!". Oh wait, that's an old movie I saw on basic a couple of weeks ago.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 2:03:45 PM | #I think you'll find that there's a relation between Ben's travels off-island and his tumor.
Brian of the North | Mar 13, 2008 2:06:23 PM | #I think Juliet might have lied to Sun about it being Jin's baby. But I think Sun will decide to stay on the island and Juliet will deliver the baby, making it the first time a woman doesn't die during child birth. I think Jin will leave the island because he will find out that Sun isn't pregnant with his baby.
I had thought about Locke being in the coffin and I'm glad to hear others think the same. I don't think it's Ben in the coffin because I really don't think Jack would've gone to the funeral. I'm gonna go way out in left field and say that it could be Sawyer in the coffin. But you might ask why wouldn't Kate and Hurley go to the funeral? Well there are still many things left unexplained in this show and that would just go along with the whole "answer one question, raise two more questions" pattern.
Emily | Mar 13, 2008 2:07:31 PM | #And I just refuse to think that my Ben is dead :'(
Emily | Mar 13, 2008 2:10:39 PM | #Blue Sean: that's a pretty cool theory (about loss of protection freaking Jack out), but I didn't come up with it.
If it's Ben, I'd wager Jack was crying because Ben was his best chance to get back.
If it's Locke, the "Forgive me" makes sense, as he could feel guilt from taking Locke from a place he felt truly at home. Unlike Milo, I think there's more than a small chance Locke shunned the spotlight, changed his name, and went to live in the woods/seclusion until his last days. I'm not saying that's what it is, but I can't dismiss it totally.
If it's Richard Alpert, Jack's sad because a 500 year old dude finally kicked the bucket. (Just checking to see if you're still reading.)
Ryan | Mar 13, 2008 2:18:20 PM | #oh, and if it's Frogurt, he's saying "Forgive me" because he didn't have more screen time.
:-)
mri | Mar 13, 2008 2:32:10 PM | #ha. ha, Ryan. :)
Ok my original prediction was Michael and Sun. But now with so many responses, I'm thinking that might be too obvious.
So I'm going to go maverick and say that Sun and Jin remain on the island together and the six is...oh, d#mn it! I can't do it!
The other 4 four will be Michael, Walt, Sun and Jin. Jin and Michael die leaving Sun to raise Walt.
I hate spoilers so I haven't read any, but Jacob is whispering in my ear...
Although I think it would make sense if it was one of the O6 that died (garnering a newspaper clipping), I'm thinking that it will be someone not apart of the 6 whom they have been trying to protect in secrecy. I still think, though that it's Michael, but I haven't worked out the disconnect yet.
Lisa | Mar 13, 2008 2:37:33 PM | #I vote Jin and john and that the other 2 of the 8 was some story for Rose and Bernard.
Jason | Mar 13, 2008 2:46:15 PM | #I believe that Sawyer could be one of the 8 or 6 off the island. When Jack and Kate are talking at the end of "Through the Looking Glass", Jack asks Kate if she went to the funeral, and her reply was along the lines of: why would I want to see him? Seems like part of that Kate-Jack-Sawyer "tryst" to me.
PJ | Mar 13, 2008 2:52:41 PM | #I think it is Faraday in the coffin ... or Miles. Or Sayid who has angered everyone by "working" for Ben.
Just stretching. Could even be someone we haven't met yet.
Oh the possibilities are endless, and working through all those options is what makes this show so much fun!!!
One hour, 40 minutes to go until the new epi starts here. Not that I'm counting the minutes or anything. ;)
djc | Mar 13, 2008 4:20:17 PM | #I'm betting the 6th member is Johnny Fairplay from Survivor.
Bumble37 | Mar 13, 2008 4:45:18 PM | #"If it's Richard Alpert, Jack's sad because a 500 year old dude finally kicked the bucket. (Just checking to see if you're still reading.)"
LOL, Ryan. I think the whole world would morn the loss of such a beautiful man. I'm comfortable enough with myself to say that he's gorgeous (at least far more than I'll ever be).
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 4:56:46 PM | #Anyone think that the so far only heard Regina may have a connection to Libby. The actress playing Regina, Zoe Bell, bears quite a resemblance to Cynthia Watros??
bitzi_f | Mar 13, 2008 6:26:08 PM | #Anyone think that the so far only heard Regina may have a connection to Libby. The actress playing Regina, Zoe Bell, bears quite a resemblance to Cynthia Watros??
bitzi_f | Mar 13, 2008 6:31:59 PM | #What's that? Vindication 2 weeks in a row?! I'm on a ROLL, people!
Jeff | Mar 13, 2008 7:06:36 PM | #LOL.
Bumble37, that was priceless!
Regarding the coffin, I still think that Locke or Michael would have SOME people at the funeral. Based on Jack's reaction, I'm really thinking it's Ben in the coffin. But my other guess would be Rose. Once they got off the island (sans Bernard), her cancer would kill her and Jack couldn't save her. But still, I'd think she'd have people at her funeral, too. How many people have absolutely NO family, friends, colleagues, or anyone that would be there. Ben is the only person I could think of....
AndreaC | Mar 14, 2008 12:19:20 PM | #If Walt ever returns to the series, it will be off the island. Ina flash forward, his new height and teenageness can be easily explained. So Michael will not survive off island, but he will make sure Walt does.
I don't think Aaron counts as one of the 6. The two "dead" ones may be Charlie and Libby, since their graves are available on the island to be exhumed. Although Eco's is also...
William Robinson | Mar 15, 2008 7:31:33 AM | #What if the sixth member is one that we do not know, but already alluded to... the "Man in the Coffin"? We know this person dies far into the future after Jack has had the breakdown and it is someone that both Jack and Kate know, which would endow the person with O6 inclusion as it was a fellow Lostie rather than an Other.
chica | Mar 15, 2008 9:55:27 PM | #About This Blog
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