At the newspaper I used to work at in Florida, one of my reporters and I developed a shorthand whenever we wanted to retract something: "Yeah, Apple-Z that," after the macro for "undo" on a Mac.

Monday's Heroes effectively Apple-Z'd the start of the season, which leaves me with two thoughts. First, that was a fine, fun episode, much more in keeping with the show's strong efforts last season. And second, why'd we have to wait until episode eight for it?

(Spoilers coming, and you won't have to wait long.)

When Heroes has been good this season -- and there have been a few times -- it has invariably been good in episodes where the focus was kept good and tight. Such was the case tonight, as the all-flashback "Four Months Ago" stayed primarily with two stories: that of the Petrelli family, primarily Peter, and Niki, D.L. and Micah. But for the unnecessary look at the first manifestation of the Wonder Bread Twins' powers, it was pretty much all good.

Since we can dismiss with Maya and Alejandro in just a couple sentences, let's do so now and be done with it. Maya kills Alejandro's cheatin' bride, and the whole wedding, with her black-oil tears, and flees to a convent in Venezuela. Alejandro discovers he can calm her later, and on the lam they go. Nothing new there, and the seven or eight minutes spent on them was really kinda worthless. I'd much rather have seen, for instance, the Bennets going underground and setting up shop in California, but no such luck.

Small potatoes, though, compared to the rest of the episode. Adam reminds Peter that on account of their proximity (and Peter's previous run-ins with Claire, although he doesn't remember that), he can heal and urges Peter to apply those powers to his mind by thinking about "what matters most to you."

Focusing on the photo of him and Nathan, Peter flashes back to the night he blew up, and we get the show's best CG work of the season as we watch Nathan's skin burn, the two brothers separate, Peter explode, Nathan fall -- and a healed-up Peter catch him and cart him to a hospital. He's promptly shocked into unconsciousness by Elle (the devilish Kristin Bell -- anyone else getting sort of a Harley Quinn vibe, in behavior if not backstory, from her character?) and Bob, who transport him to the Company's facility and tell him they can give him medication to keep him from going all nuclear again.

For all their sinister machinations, though, Bob and Elle don't have the sense to bunk Peter in a cell farther away from Adam, who gets to know our brooding empath thanks to a series of air-vent conversations over the four months between then and now and fills Peter's head with stories of how the Company is deceitful and duplicitous. Which is probably all true, but given what we know about Adam's past as Kensei, it's hard to believe his motives are pure.

Aside from filling in the gaps from the night Peter blew up to the night he was found in Ireland, the flashback introduced a healthy amount of ambiguity into the Company/Adam/elders portion of the show. Adam may in fact believe he's "saving the world," but is murdering 12 people -- assuming Bob's assertion last week that he's the one bumping off the elders -- really the way to go? And just what, exactly, do Bob et al. have to gain by de-powering people with abilities?

Peter, along with his mother and brother, are sort of stuck in the middle. Both sides clearly want Peter as their pawn, and given how powerful he is I guess neither can be blamed. I can't believe it will end well once he figures that out, but I'm suddenly pretty interested in seeing how it plays. (As an aside, I'm curious what it is that Angela Petrelli did to help the Haitian, and whether his memory-wipe on Peter was really an act of mercy or part of something he and HRG have cooking.)

The Niki story felt like it was in large part crafted to give Leonard Roberts' D.L. a proper sendoff, and that it did. (I guessed "cop" when he told Micah he was getting a job that would make his son proud, but firefighter makes more sense given that D.L. has a criminal record.) But it also demonstrated some of the problems with the Company's approach to "curing" people with powers.

On her meds, Niki is a lethargic lump who can't even celebrate her son's birthday; when she goes off them, she "fractures" again, to use Bob's word for the multiple-personality disorder that manifests sometimes when people discover their abilities. This time we meet not Jessica but Gina, a party girl who dashes off to L.A. and gets with a skeevy bearded dude who takes very unkindly to D.L. coming to take his wife home. He shoots D.L. at point-blank range (presumably not giving him any time or space to let the bullet pass through, or maybe he just didn't think the guy would really pull the trigger).

His death convinces Niki to buy completely into the Company line and take her power-sapping medicine, although I'm a little confused by the coda to her flashback. In her final scene tonight, she's wheeling a suitcase and thanking Bob. Given that we last saw her injecting the vaccine into herself, I guess we're to assume that scene is at the start of her treatment. That doesn't quite jibe with the timeline of Peter and Adam, who end the episode pretty much where we left off last week.

Still, though, I'm much more encouraged by the direction Heroes took with this episode. If only it had happened sooner.

How'd you like "Four Months Ago"? Has Heroes won you back? And are we to believe that Nathan grew, then shaved, that fantastic beard in three weeks' time?

Comments

I missed the very ending (stupid PVR) what happened when Nathan got out of the cab?

Jay | Nov 12, 2007 7:31:16 PM | #

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He was in front of the pub in Ireland where Peter met Caitlin and her brother. Then it cut back to Peter and Adam starting on their journey to "save the world."

Bobby | Nov 12, 2007 9:41:33 PM | #

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I don't know. This episode was a letdown to me, and I 90% blame myself and 10% blame everything about this episode online sans spoilers. I am glad to see why the twins are on the run, because it was the only thing that me and my friend while watching actual had some sort of sympathy for. Maya's revelation that she had just acceidently killed an entire wedding party was very well done, I just actually wished we could have gotten more of it. I was very letdown at how D.L. was gunned down. I really don't think that was a proper send off. The guy was gunned down last year and he survived it. I was looking for some other way for him to go out, but all we got was something to tie him into Nikki's guilt of losing him. I think that the Bennetts exclusion was ok, but would have liked to have seen Mohinder and H.R.G. hook up to take down the Company and the motivation behind their pairing. The one thing that was SORELY missing from all of this is Parkman's story. Now THAT would have been a great treat to see how that all went down.

Mark O. Estes | Nov 12, 2007 10:06:29 PM | #

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The story I missed most was Sylar, I had hoped that they were at least gonna show how he survived Kirby Plaza, and then how he got to one of the Dharma bunkers (or whatever that was) in the middle of South America, and why he lost his powers. I'm hoping that they eventually give us that story, hopefully in a Sylar-centric episode sometime down the line.

Chris | Nov 12, 2007 10:28:11 PM | #

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I was kinda looking forward to seeing how Sylar got to the bunker as well. Unfortunantly, his work on the new "Star Trek" meant they pretty much had to make him a footnote in Volume 2.

The biggest dissapointment for me is how streamlined this whole season has been; there's just been no build do it. It's like Tim Kring knew very quickly his opening episodes were getting slammed by the press and the fans, and has been trying to play catch up ever since.

The other factor is, the season was divided into 2 seperate story arcs, that only achieve their true power when combined (hey, just like the Wonder Twins!), but because of the Writer's Strike, they had to tie up the loose ends very fast.

Which means, it's going to leave us hanging; it's like you're eating the best meal you've tasted in a long time, when halfway through the waiter just takes it away, then turns the lights off and closes the restaurant while you're still sitting at the table.

Sean | Nov 13, 2007 1:02:02 AM | #

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Oh, and DL getting shot by a no-name drug addict? Not cool.

Sean | Nov 13, 2007 1:04:35 AM | #

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Maybe I was expecting too much from the buildup. I liked this episode, but I wasn't completely blown away. Too much time taken up by the twins, who have shown me nothing so far but an ability to waste screen time. As the reviewer noted, the ep displays the focus which this season's shows have lacked for the most part. Get rid of the excess characters, concentrate on a limited number of storylines ala "Babylon 5". Never especially cared for DL but what a disservice to have the character taken out in such a pedestrian manner! DL would've been better served by dying in Kirby Plaza.

G-Zus | Nov 13, 2007 2:09:43 AM | #

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoyed the twins' storyline in this episode. But it would've been cool to see a little bit of the Bennets, sorta how they showed us a bit of Monica.
As for the D.L. thing, I thought that was pretty cool how even thought he's a 'super hero' he was killed in such a simple way; it definitely made the Nikki storyline a lot stronger.

edgar | Nov 13, 2007 2:12:24 AM | #

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I myself also enjoyed the Twins' back story. It made me sympathize with them.

I also enjoyed the DL killing, only because of Niki's sad face of pure shock afterwards. That made me sympathize with her a lot more, and sorta, SORTA, makes me understand why she went to Bob for help. Though I got kinda confused because it seemed like she met him for the first time in his office a couple episodes back.

By the way, am I the only one who's annoyed at how pathetic The Company's security is? Sylar, HRG, Matt, Ted, Adam, and Peter all have managed to escape. Each episode I'm convinced that Peter is a moron. How did he not know after 2-3 months that he was being held against his will?

I'm ok with not having the Bennett's or Matt's back story because it's practically given already. The Bennett's just simply moved, so what. Matt's backstory also came about during his dad's power reveal (Janice having the baby and blah blah I don't remember).

I can see just a tiny bit why the backstory was revealed now. It would have been easier to understand how Adam=Kensei, and that he simply lived for 400 years, rather than seeing him in the future and trying to figure out why he was in the past.

gus | Nov 13, 2007 4:14:11 AM | #

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I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet. There was one major continuity gaffe that stuck out at me. How is it that Nathan's wife is walking? Did I miss something? Last we saw her, she was confined to a wheelchair.

GJK | Nov 13, 2007 4:16:40 AM | #

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Linderman healed Heidi last season in "Landslide"

D | Nov 13, 2007 4:29:45 AM | #

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Linderman healed her back in season one.... Can't remember which episode, but he used it to try and influence Nathan to help him. Oh, just in case, Linderman's power was that he would heal stuff.

gus | Nov 13, 2007 4:30:40 AM | #

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D'oh! I completely forgot that Linderman healed her. One of those subplots that didn't leave much of an impact on me, I guess.

GJK | Nov 13, 2007 4:58:53 AM | #

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i agree this epsiode should have been alot earleir this season - it reminded me of how the show was last season. i am still confused about certain things - liek i thought bob wasgoing to use nikki's alter ego to keep suresh in check therefor not giving her the medicine - or did i think that was going to happened and it was never fact.

Simon | Nov 13, 2007 5:31:21 AM | #

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My question is about the Haitian and Peter. Does the Haitian's power mean that Peter didn't absorb his power? Or does Peter now have the Haitian's power as well? If he does, noone can touch him. He can mute their abilities and then use one of his 50 abilities to do anything he wants to them. If Peter ever gains full control of all his abilities, he will be unstoppable. I wonder if Adam/Kensei can help him with that.

Oh and Elle (Kristin Bell) is so hot. I'd let her shock me.

Josh | Nov 13, 2007 5:50:56 AM | #

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I don' think Peter will have the Haitian's power- part of his ability is not only wiping memories, but blocking the powers of another person. Peter could not defend himself against him, so I am guessing that his powers of absorption were put on hold during their encounter.

Oh, yeah- Kristen Bell totally rocked it last night.

Beth | Nov 13, 2007 6:00:53 AM | #

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i thought kristen bell was annoying---didn't really believe her.

tim | Nov 13, 2007 6:17:34 AM | #

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Good episode.
Makes me think about blood a lot though. (Mohinder's and Adam's and if Peter's mother was being truthful by saying Nathan was the first casualty of the virus.)

pakopako | Nov 13, 2007 6:30:27 AM | #

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I KNEW that Elle was ticked off at Peter for something and now we know what it is, he played her. She's out for revenge because she liked him. It's personal to her. And we still don't know who's her daddy!!

I'm excited for next week when it looks like Claire and Elle meet.

Julie | Nov 13, 2007 6:34:38 AM | #

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cOULD THIS SHOW BE THE BIGGEST LETDOWN THIS SEASON. mAYBE ITS A GOOD THING THERES A STRIKE, IT SAVED THE WRITERS, MORE THAN THE CHEERLEADER. TOTALLY DISAPOINTED. KRISTEN BELL IS A JOKE ON THIS SHOW, SHES UNBELIEVABLE.

RICK | Nov 13, 2007 6:41:07 AM | #

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Question: in the previews for last night's ep, I thought I saw a scene where Mama Petrelli tells Heidi that she has to take the kids in leave, or something to that effect, but I don't remember seeing that scene in the episode. Am I crazy, did this scene happen and I just missed it, was it never in the previews, or was it in the previews and then not in the episode? And if it wasn't in the episode, did they give any explanation for why Heidi and the kids are no longer with Nathan? And they also didn't talk about the consequences of what Nathan had to do with the Congressional seat he won.

Chris | Nov 13, 2007 6:45:26 AM | #

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Ok, enough with Ms. Bell. I can't stand that squeaky little voice anymore, and her character is less than interesting. Please, producers, kill her off soon, and don't let her regenerate/crawl into sewer/morph into someone else's body. Or replace her with someone who can ACT.

This show is starting to get to me. When the credits roll every week I beg them to make something happen. Something interesting, something fun. But every week I'm shot down. Shirtless Pete was nice, but I can get that online. Please Heroes! Give me a reason to keep watching!

| Nov 13, 2007 6:56:39 AM | #

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Isn't Niki having ANOTHER personality a little convenient? Like they couldn't think of anything else to do with her character. D. L. was the only member of that family that I enjoyed watching, and now he's gone, leaving us with Splitty McBore and her mini-bore.

BTW - Didn't we meet Grandma last season, and wasn't she definitely NOT played by Uhura then?

| Nov 13, 2007 6:59:56 AM | #

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by far the best episode this season but it still had its flaws. I don't agree that was a good sendoff for DL. Getting shot by some random a$$hole because yet again he had to go save Nikki from herself? I would have rather seen him die trying to save the girl in the fire or at least a more noble death than some random shooting. Also they didn't even give him a good death scene. I actually liked seeing how the wonder twins first went on the lamb. I thought that was pretty wicked to see her wiping out the entire wedding party. Also would have liked to see Parkman's story. after all the buildup about Kristen Bell being on this show, i'm also really disappointed so far. She's annoying and i'm not impressed at all. I'm pretty sure that Adam's blood is the source of the virus somehow, otherwise they could have just used his blood to stop the virus completely.

steve | Nov 13, 2007 7:00:31 AM | #

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actually that was DL's mom, who i guess Nikki would rather kill than give Micah to her. Uhura is DL's grandmother i think. Guess DL's mom doesn't get along with Uhura either.

steve | Nov 13, 2007 7:04:53 AM | #

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Maya and Alejandro = Reason to change channel. This episode should have been episode two. The producers screwed up BIG TIME. and omg, STRONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE CHARACTER DIES! wtf. NBC is catering and in turn sanctioning illegal immigrants but can't keep an African American from being shot by a junkie.

tony from jersey | Nov 13, 2007 7:33:44 AM | #

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Some one could probably fill you in better but mama petrelli tells Heidi that Nathan has delusions of grandeur, and depression runs in the family, thats why his dad killed himself, and that she should be worried for herself and the kids. Apparently Nathan told Heidi what really happened, about how he could fly, and Mama calls that in to question as proof that he has issues. You would think that if Heidi could be healed by linderman she would possibly accept that he could fly....

Sarah | Nov 13, 2007 7:37:28 AM | #

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DL could have gone out differently but it just goes to show the initial premise of the show of ordinary people with extraordinary abilities. Unfortunately he was one who went out in a some what ordinary way (meaning not saving the world). I still Love Heroes. I'll admit that this season is not as great as last but it's still really good and keeps me wanting more. Good point about the Hatian and Peters powers Beth. I think you may be right.

Greg | Nov 13, 2007 7:39:27 AM | #

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Maybe I am reading too much into it, but Nikki's halucination last week was of Bob shooting DL. Perhaps there is something to it. I'm sure the Company was monitoring Nikki saw that she had "fractured" and new they had to do something. They hire a gun to shoot DL use their resources to make it look legit and trap DL within the Company pumping him full of that medication they were giving Peter.

Speaking of the medication. I am guessing that is why Sylar is currently powerless. Once he has been off the meds for 5 days he should get his powers back.

TMF | Nov 13, 2007 7:57:41 AM | #

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Never had a problem with Heroes this season. I appreciate shows that don't treat their fans like ADD sufferers. All I ever read was winers not getting their instant gratification.

El Conejo | Nov 13, 2007 8:12:28 AM | #

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Nathan's beard continuity really bugged me. It distracted me so much I couldn't focus on what I liked about the episode. Obviously the writers were distracted by the impending strike when they wrote this episode.

Siansonea | Nov 13, 2007 8:14:34 AM | #

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These comments just go to show that different people like different story lines and shows, and the writers will never be able to please everybody. Our blogger, Rick, liked this episode, the Boston Herald t.v. critic trashed it (and gave spoilers before the episode even aired with no warining). I liked it, I find the show entertaining, and I don't take it too seriously or expect a masterpiece.

That said - one thing confuses me: The Haitian wiped Peter's memory because he wanted to help Angela Petrelli for helping him. Angela seems to be "in" with The Company and Bob and the crew. HRG is now against The Company (and has been since before last season's final explosion), and the Haitian is with HRG. Now comes Adam - a third faction? Who is with whom, and who is against who?

Sue | Nov 13, 2007 8:22:06 AM | #

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Forgot to add about the Haitian - he seems to be working with Elle and Bob, is he faking it to report back to HRG? Did they find out and is that why Suresh had to go to Haiti to cure him of the virus (at HRG's bidding)?

Sue | Nov 13, 2007 8:24:23 AM | #

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Maybe I have a dark side b/c after that jerk killed D.L. I really wanted Nikki to go after him and rip him apart. And I mean literally rip him apart. And you know she can. Normally I wouldn't have such a bloodthirsty reaction to a character's death, but after last season, that just really felt like that should have been Nikki's natural responce.

Lindlee | Nov 13, 2007 8:28:17 AM | #

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Maybe I have a dark side b/c after that jerk killed D.L. I really wanted Nikki to go after him and rip him apart. And I mean literally rip him apart. And you know she can. Normally I wouldn't have such a bloodthirsty reaction to a character's death, but after last season, that just really felt like that should have been Nikki's natural responce.

Lindlee | Nov 13, 2007 8:28:22 AM | #

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You people are the reason the networks have to come up with 20 new shows each year. You must bitch about everything and how the writers suck. Heroes is different than other shows, and when you realize that, you'll learn to appreciate it.

G | Nov 13, 2007 8:37:03 AM | #

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The only scene with Elle I liked was when she cut Peter's hair. It's been bugging me since episode one, mostly because he couldn't stop playing with his bangs. I wanted to leap through the tv screen and slap his hands away from them.

By the way, "G", we do appreciate it, and are disappointed in the direction it's taking. We people are the reason it's still on, because we obviously watch it and care about it. No need to get snotty because our opinions differ from yours.

| Nov 13, 2007 8:53:24 AM | #

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Truly appreciated the Harley Quinn comparison - a sociopath with a true sense of joy in work she does/life she leads - Yep that's our Elle. Apparently she has worked through her "issues" and finds she agrees with the diagnoses and hey, so what - life can be fun. I only hope they develop her character more so she and Sylar can have a wicked face off. Except if she plays with him too long she will lose the top of her head.

The unfortunate part about the twins is that so far the only way I can see their story playing out is for Maya to die.

Really wondering what Adam is going for. Also, if Adam is the one that is killing the original generation - ummm how did he kill Hiro's father if he was locked in a cell during that time? Or any of them if supposedly he has been there for 30 years??

Also, I was a bit disappointed that they did not fill in the Sylar back story. Someone must have known he was down there with Candace and if so haven't they noticed he is missing?

RKM | Nov 13, 2007 8:57:31 AM | #

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I really like Kristen Bell is doing. Elle is a character that is suppose to annoy you, so all the people that don't like her, have a reason. I'm sure many of you didn't watch Veronica Mars, but KB is not like that in any other show/movie that I've watched her in. She is obviously listening to direction and making Elle seem like an annoying, no interaction with the outside world kid. She has never interacted with boys, so of course, she is going to play with them. Don't we all tease boys when we are little to let them know we like them. Needless, I think Elle and Sylar together would be a kick @$$ team.

Lisa | Nov 13, 2007 9:08:01 AM | #

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Never had a problem with Heroes this season. I appreciate shows that don't treat their fans like ADD sufferers. All I ever read was winers not getting their instant gratification.

El Conejo | Nov 13, 2007 9:14:26 AM | #

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For some reason, this episode just didn't do it for me. I like Niki, but I don't really care if she has three personalities now. I do like that the show is really moving along now.

eva | Nov 13, 2007 9:21:45 AM | #

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Maybe Adam is not the one who is killing the elders if he's been in jail for 30 years.

Hey "G", I agree with you, it just gets so negative, people write on the blog just to complain. I don't care if you liked it or not, and if you don't, stop watching because alot of us do like it. Don't dig too deep into it, it's just a show.

Sue | Nov 13, 2007 9:40:55 AM | #

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Kristen Bell as Elle was totally hot, and I'm not even a dude ... or gay.

I definitely enjoy my TV differently from how I approach reality. Elle would probably annoy the hell out of me in real life, but on TV, I gleefully embrace her -- shocks and all.

Hanh | Nov 13, 2007 10:28:06 AM | #

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What if Elle is killing the elders for The Company but they are trying to place the blame on Adam? Seems like she is the one sent to do the dirty work around there...
And - any guesses as to who Elle's daddy might be?

Reese | Nov 13, 2007 10:42:22 AM | #

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I have a theory. It may sound far out there, but hear me out. Has it occurred to anyone that Adam is not from the past, but he is from the present. We did not see him in Japan of the 16th century because he is from that era; we saw him there because someone put him there. It is possible that the Heroes from the older generation dealt with him years earlier, but they could not defeat him bacause of his immortality. Someone with the same power as Hiro (perhaps Hiro's dad)took him to the 16th century and left him there so that he would not be able to kill any of them. With Adam out of the way, the older Heroes were able to create the next generation of Heroes, hoping that at least one person would emerge with the ability to kill him. However, time has caught up to them. Adam is back in the 21st century, and he is determined to take his revenge on all of the older Heroes. Adam's problem is that other than his immortality, he doesn't have any powers. He cannot fly, shoot electricity from his hands, time travel, or walk through walls. He needs Peter, and perhaps a few others, to help him. It is possible that Peter was the one that killed Hiro's father. That was the reason that Hiro's dad said, " Of everyone, I'm surprised that it was you."

Regarding Kristen Bell, I have two words: character development. KB established herself as a talented actor on Veronica Mars. The producers of Heroes would not have made the effort to bring onto the show if she was bad. If they only wanted a cute girl with shapely legs, they could have taken dozens of other girls to fill that role. They also would not have brought her onto the show to give her a character that was shallow and flakey. There clearly is more to her character than what we have seen. The fact that she has been childish and annoying can be attributed to the fact that she grew up in isolation. She probably is not aware that she is being immature. Give the producers time to reveal more. Don't just expect her to take over the show.

Regarding Maya and Alejandro, I am Latino and I am glad that the producers have added Latin characters to an already ethnically diverse cast. However, I believe that it is time for the producers to justify their presence on the show. Perhaps Maya exists because she is the only one who can take away Adam's immortality and kill him. Even if that is the case, I still believe that she ultimately will have to be killed or banished to a deserted island. Thus far, she has killed roughly 50 -60 people with a power that she cannot control. To allow her to roam freely after killing all of those innocent people because "she didn't mean to do it" would be a profound injustice to those people. On top of that, she would spend the rest of her life causing the deaths of everyone around her every time she became upset about something. This is clearly one of those moments when the needs of the many should outweigh the need of one. I wonder if the producers considered any of that before giving her that particular power.

For everyone who is complaining, you can always watch Dancing with the Stars. This show is still very cool to watch.

Pete | Nov 13, 2007 10:52:50 AM | #

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I think it would be fun if Adam were Elle's daddy.

Susan | Nov 13, 2007 11:05:00 AM | #

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Interesting theory Pete.
I, too, thought that Adam was put back in time to Japan but to deal with Hiro.
Could Maya's "powers" really be the virus? That would explain wiping out people left and right - perhaps Sylar or Adam absorb her powers and that's how NYC falls in the future? Hmmm....

Reese | Nov 13, 2007 11:12:22 AM | #

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I continue not to understand the animosity twds the Twins. The wedding massacre was gothic and creepy, indeed one of the best scenes Ive seen on the show.

I thought this much-hyped ep was otherwise a let-down. Most thrilling bits were Peter and smoldering Nathan in the air.

david g | Nov 13, 2007 11:23:22 AM | #

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Call me cruel, but during the accidental massacre at the wedding, I was actually hoping for the old Taco Bell chihuahua to show up and start saying, "Yo quiero Taco Be..." and then doing the X-Files oil-slick-from-the-eyes routine, then keeling over. I'm just nuts that way. Anyway, the aftermath kinda reminded me of the long pan in the original version of the movie "The Andromeda Strain," which is without question one of the eeriest scenes in movie history. As others have stated here and elsewhere, I think the twins really are being introduced gradually for the specific purpose of the upcoming plague. If Alejandro is indeed the cure to Maya's disease (that sounds vaguely nasty, but eh...), then it makes sense that Alejandro could be the vector for a vaccine that will prevent 90% of the world's population from dropping dead. Maya may just be there to accentuate the point. Otherwise, their presence is really just a bit of a long road trip. Also, if Sylar is along with them, and if he absorbs Maya's ability, he could then become an even more dangerous enemy than he was in season one. Peter's plotline really doesn't interest me much, as I didn't care for his crooked-faced presence in the first season, nor have I changed my opinion of him, so I didn't much care about what happened to him four months previous. Major kudos to the writers for their continuity, though...when Peter was found in the storage container, he was without a shirt; in last night's episode, they remembered to show how and why he lost said article of clothing. Care to details like that forgives a legion of sins, in my way of thinking. The one characters that I would really like to know a whole lot more about (and which, to date, they haven't satisfied anyone's curiosity) is the Haitian. Sure, we know some of his background as it relates to The Company and HRG, but I'd like to know much more about him and less about Claire, Peter and others that are now just cluttering up the landscape. Meh episode, but at least we didn't have a Claire-centric one this time. Oh, and did I read things wrong, or wasn't there supposed to have been a lesbian cheerleader introduced by this point? Maybe they opted to not introduce her, as there were too many new characters this season already?

Dark Disciple | Nov 13, 2007 12:56:39 PM | #

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For those who were asking about the Sylar backstory, we were already given it when Candice explained to us that she pulled Sylar down the sewer and to safety of the remote island to heal up.

For those wondering how Adam killed Hiro's father. That event took place after Adam had escaped with Peter.

I love the way that Kristin Bell has been portraying Elle. I think she has petulent teen/adolesent down.

Rishi | Nov 13, 2007 2:35:52 PM | #

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I think Adam did kill Hiro's Dad, it happened just after Peter broke them out, because in the same episode we saw Peter wake up in the shipping container.

I think Angela Petrelli's power may be mind control. It seemed that when she was talking to Nathan's wife she looked like she was hypnotized or something. I would like to know more about Daddy Petrelli though.

Whoever said Sylar may regain his powers now that he has been off his meds for 5 days(if he was on same meds) may be on to something. He may be bad but his character is definitely cool.

This season had a slow start, but is still good in my book. It is still high on my Tivo season pass priority list behind Lost and Jericho.

Shaggysteve | Nov 13, 2007 2:55:30 PM | #

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Anyone else think that Adam is Clare's real father?

I suppose the fact that he had supposedly been locked up for 30 years might preclude him from being the sperm-donor, but you never know. Maybe Clare's mother was also locked up in that place.

Goo | Nov 13, 2007 3:03:23 PM | #

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Adam may not be Clair's father but most likely an ancestor. Great-Grandfather or beyond.

Shaggysteve | Nov 13, 2007 3:09:19 PM | #

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Just like genetic traits(i.e. hair color, eyes, etc.) powers may lay dorment between generations. We still don't know what the Petrelli parents powers are/were.

Shaggysteve | Nov 13, 2007 3:12:05 PM | #

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DL could be still alive...he found Nikki using what resources? probably the company, who want her as an asset. DL sees she is dangerous, fakes his own death..gets put in the ground where he Caspers out anytime he feels like it.

Still say the twins killing ability could be the key to killing the virus..say a group of afflicted get all black teary, virus dies/vacate host, Alejandro reverses the death effect "just in time".

GaribalDi | Nov 13, 2007 3:20:13 PM | #

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What if everybody with powers is related to Adam. I mean he may be the first person with any powers, and thus everyone related to him has powers. His name is Adam. It would explain his so-called god complex. However, it wouldn't explain why he is killing off heroes unless he just wants to somehow end the bloodline or something.

Shaggysteve | Nov 13, 2007 3:35:27 PM | #

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I seriously doubt that DL is still alive. I think the writers made it a point to show DL's blood splattered on Niki - it was evidence that he suffered a major hit (and was not able to phase in time prior to being shot).

If the comics are still true (some believe that Hiro's rip in space/time can change things), then Papa Petrelli had no powers. At least it seemed as though he had none. He was stranded with Linderman during the Vietnam War, and he was amazed by Linderman's healing power. The readers are to deduce that Papa Petrelli had no powers. Well at least that's what I think we are supposed to think.

gus | Nov 13, 2007 3:36:11 PM | #

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Thank you, Shaggysteve. I was beginning to wonder if my husband and I were the only ones who noticed Mama Petrelli's "manipulation" of Heidi.

I didn't think G was being snotty. It is perfectly possible to like a show and still criticize it. (I was bowled over by Dark Disciple's description of Peter's "crooked-face presence.") It's also possible to be honestly aghast at some plot turn. But so much of the commentary (here and on other blogs) is I-don't-like whining with nothing thoughtful to back it up. Or else it's completely off the mark like those who think Kristen Bell can't act. (Ever occur to you that her character is supposed to grate on your nerves?) I think that's the sort of thing that G was objecting to.

Back to DD, the Haitian intrigues me, too. Possibly, though, one reason we find him so interesting is that we DON'T know much about him.

meggins | Nov 13, 2007 3:38:38 PM | #

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Do we have any relation to the clothes Adam wore when he met Peter to the clothes of the guy who pushed Kaito? I know it's a stretch, but perhaps Adam wasn't able to buy new clothes since he broke out of The Company....

Also, we are still trying to figure out how Angela was attacked when she was being questioned. The room was locked from inside, and no one saw a thing enter....

gus | Nov 13, 2007 3:40:46 PM | #

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I've enjoyed Heroes this year, and I look forward to unfolding of the story. That is what is important to me. The writers telling a good story. And it is good to see Kristin Bell on TV.

David | Nov 13, 2007 5:04:55 PM | #

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The comments about Adam being moved to th 16th century is interesting, but how about this theory?

Adam/Kensei was originally a good guy, through other means (not from Hiro), he becomes the hero he was suppose to be and is told to Hiro as childhood stories.

But by Hiro falling in love with the swordmaker's daughter, he turned Adam/Kensei evil. He waited 500+ years to get revenge back on Hiro. Nothing seem to have changed on the surface, because the swordmaker's daughter promised to tell stories of the legendary Kensei. But in reality, Hiro screwed up the whole timeline by doing what he did.

Sometimes, I wonder why Hiro can't just go back in time to stop himself from doing stupid things like that. But I guess that would have made it a boring story.

Jack | Nov 13, 2007 7:38:21 PM | #

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Regarding Jack: I don't get whats "theory" about your comment. Isn't that what we are supposed to believe?

gus | Nov 13, 2007 9:03:01 PM | #

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Gus, Maury Parkman attacked Angela with his mind.

Vanipok | Nov 13, 2007 11:51:13 PM | #

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Vanipok: Darn, I was hoping for a bigger twist than that!

gus | Nov 14, 2007 3:34:48 AM | #

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i dont know why everyone dogs this show.this show rules. its unlike most shows out there and keeps me happy on mondays. go watch k ville if you dont like it.i think the strike is def gonna hurt it tho cause i think they might have to change alot of the things planned for this year. hopefully it gets settled soon so we can have the season its supposed to be. anyways, i think maya abilities will be the one to take out adam at the end.

kydd | Nov 14, 2007 11:07:46 AM | #

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