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Mischa Barton looks back on 'The O.C.': 'People lived and died by those characters'
Break out your old Phantom Planet CDs, Death Cab For Cutie t-shirts and Captain Oats replicas: We're going back to California.
We'll admit, we were surprised to see "The O.C's" Mischa Barton on the list of attendees at the 2011 Reality Rocks Expo. She's not an actress we usually -- or ever -- associate with reality TV. It turns out Barton was in the house to promote her self-titled line of handbags, which is only available in the UK.
Being huge fans of "The O.C.," we here at Zap2it knew we had to sit down and chat with the actress who played our favorite poor little rich girl: Marissa Cooper. Who didn't swoon when Ryan (Ben McKenzie) ran through the door at the nick of time on New Year's Eve to kiss Marissa? Who didn't tune in and freak out when Marissa decided, 'Hey, I'm a lesbian now!?' And don't you dare tell us you didn't shed a tear (or, um, 40) when Marissa tragically died in Ryan's arms at the end of Season 3. Not cool, Volchok. Not cool. Who ever would have thought a spoiled, alcoholic high school girl would end up being one of TV's most tragic characters?
Lucky for us, Barton was more than game to answer all of our "O.C."-related questions, including her favorite episode, when she knew the show was a cultural phenomenon and how she related to Marissa's darkness. We also found out if Barton would ever be interested in gracing the small screen again.
So cue up "California" on your iPods 'cause nostalgia here we come...
it was really hard for me because I was 17, so I really didn't look at it like that. I remember being really shocked though like, the day after it aired, we went to this FOX event that we thought was going to be nothing. We literally thought it was the empty lot next to this craziness. We were like, 'Oh, what's that for? All those crazy screaming fans. We want to go there, that's a party!' They were like, 'That's where you're going.' All of these people bombarded us and I was like, 'Oh my god. It's barely been on the air.'
It's funny to look back on those things -- the heightened drama and stuff that was going on at the time; Just all these young people coming together on a show and the awkwardness of it and just how it was going to pan out. None of us knew at the time, we were such baby dragons. Well, that's a weird term that I use, but we were so innocent in a way to what goes on in real episodic TV like that once you become a hit. Let's face it, a lot of people lived or died by those characters for awhile. It was kind of creepy just because people obsess over you.
We messed around with the accents a lot in the very beginning. We didn't know if she was going to have this annoying Southern California drawl or what. Then I was like just, 'Hey guys, that's just not me, it's going to be very difficult.' Doug Liman [executive producer] really wanted me to do this Valley girl stuff and when you're doing a grueling show like that -- eight day episodes, working all day long -- it's very easy to make that kitschy and not good after a quick minute. I was like, 'Let's do something a little closer to home and incorporate me in it.'
Do you have a favorite episode or moment from the show?
I really like the Christmas episode ["The Best Chrismukkah Ever"] where Marissa gets drunk in that Chanel dress and acts like a ridiculous human being at that party. I also really like a couple of the lifeguard stand scenes. Looking back, the stuff that I hated doing the most for it -- like the being freezing cold in a bikini at 4 a.m. at the Redondo Pier -- now, it's some of the most beautiful stuff about it. It's like, well, that was grueling but it's beautiful. Nobody knew how cold and miserable the idea of it was, but I think those are the iconic moments of the show.
I really like the Christmas episode ["The Best Chrismukkah Ever"] where Marissa gets drunk in that Chanel dress and acts like a ridiculous human being at that party. I also really like a couple of the lifeguard stand scenes. Looking back, the stuff that I hated doing the most for it -- like the being freezing cold in a bikini at 4 a.m. at the Redondo Pier -- now, it's some of the most beautiful stuff about it. It's like, well, that was grueling but it's beautiful. Nobody knew how cold and miserable the idea of it was, but I think those are the iconic moments of the show.
What was your favorite thing about Marissa? We always felt like she stood out on the show as she wasn't the quintessential California girl. She was darker and kind of tinged in sadness.
Well, that's what McG [executive producer] kind of wanted I think. He moved me out from New York to do that show. I mean, he's a great guy. Once he decides he wants something though, he definitely goes for it. He was like, 'Oh, you're going to play Marissa because you've got this weird sophistication.' Looking back, it was probably quite a clever decision of his, but it was just really awkward for me because I moved to L.A. from New York for that show. I had never been to Orange County in my life and had no idea of that world. I did try to understand it for the show and get into it.
Well, that's what McG [executive producer] kind of wanted I think. He moved me out from New York to do that show. I mean, he's a great guy. Once he decides he wants something though, he definitely goes for it. He was like, 'Oh, you're going to play Marissa because you've got this weird sophistication.' Looking back, it was probably quite a clever decision of his, but it was just really awkward for me because I moved to L.A. from New York for that show. I had never been to Orange County in my life and had no idea of that world. I did try to understand it for the show and get into it.
We messed around with the accents a lot in the very beginning. We didn't know if she was going to have this annoying Southern California drawl or what. Then I was like just, 'Hey guys, that's just not me, it's going to be very difficult.' Doug Liman [executive producer] really wanted me to do this Valley girl stuff and when you're doing a grueling show like that -- eight day episodes, working all day long -- it's very easy to make that kitschy and not good after a quick minute. I was like, 'Let's do something a little closer to home and incorporate me in it.'
So do you feel like there was a lot of Mischa incorporated into Marissa?
That's where a lot of that darkness and weirdness comes from. I think that they realized my emotional range laid kind of more in the despair and weirdness of the situation with her family and stuff. They pushed that so much in Marissa that it became ridiculous because like, I can drunk-cry at the drop of a hat as an actress. I am very emotional so then they just made the character overly emotional, but then that's what people liked about her in the end. They didn't mean to do that, they were just trying to keep the drama going. It all ended up making her like she's a lesbian, she's angry, she's happy, she's sad. It was interesting how it developed, I guess.
Now that it's been about five years since you were last on the show, how do you look back on "The O.C."?
It's one of those things where I look fondly at it now. During it, it was confusing for me. It's not something that I look at negatively, necessarily, but I'm not the kind of actress that likes to be torn apart and dissected. It was very difficult for me to start to embrace that. Now, I think it's funny and great that all these people do know me from it and kind of had to see me grow up and did see me grow up and go through all that shit. Now, I think people will come around to who you are as an actor and a being and get on your side, so I'm glad that that show -- in a way -- exposed me. It definitely established me as an actor and I think you can only embrace that.
It's a British company RI2K who I started working with. My mom helps out, too, but we mostly work together to design them in the UK. They send me all of the possibilities for hardware, swatches and fabrics and we've tried to get a few core shapes down that we really like in the beginning. I spend a lot of time in England so I usually just do that when I'm over there and then everything else is just kind of long-distance. It's cool. We have them in Japan as well. I tihnk what really works for them is that we're really able to keep the price point quite low, but still funky and cool. Some of them are not supposed to last forever. They're more like fun bags, and then we have the more serious ones. We've been working on the proper like, doctor bags, the ones that do last a long time.
What's the inspiration for your line?
Would you ever consider working on TV again?
TV is not something that I'm looking at right now for a second, just because I'm really at a restful place in my life. I'm really just taking my downtime. I've seen a lot of other girls who just kept going and kind of spazzed out and I'm just really grateful to be settled right now and not working and not doing anything but working on myself.I just feel really blessed with a convergence of really good things going on right now so I'm not in a rush to do a project. I think television is grueling and this year there's been such an uproar with like the Charlie Sheens of actors -- well, I think he's amazing -- but I just think it's not the time for me to be on television. I'll just a wait a second on it, but I do like TV. It's a good forum.
We know you're here promoting your line of handbags, how did that come about?
It's a British company RI2K who I started working with. My mom helps out, too, but we mostly work together to design them in the UK. They send me all of the possibilities for hardware, swatches and fabrics and we've tried to get a few core shapes down that we really like in the beginning. I spend a lot of time in England so I usually just do that when I'm over there and then everything else is just kind of long-distance. It's cool. We have them in Japan as well. I tihnk what really works for them is that we're really able to keep the price point quite low, but still funky and cool. Some of them are not supposed to last forever. They're more like fun bags, and then we have the more serious ones. We've been working on the proper like, doctor bags, the ones that do last a long time.
What's the inspiration for your line?
I really like just finding vintage shapes and bags of mine. In the beginning, we just did a lot of sourcing bag styles that I like and want to remake. I think handbags are a great area to work in because you can do anything with them. They can really change an outfit. You always look at girls' bags and you don't want to spend a fortune on them. You want them to be functional, have pockets and work, but you don't want it to be a piece of crap. I don't want to spend a fortune on crazy of-the-moment handbags. If it's going to cost me like $600 to get a handbag of-the-moment then I'm probably not even going to bother to do it. I just have my classics that I like.
Obviously people focus on what you wear a lot, have you ever considered a clothing line?
I have with different friends. I do have people, but it's very difficult for me when I vibe with someone's style. My style is such a juxtaposition between like, really high-end stuff and quite clean-cut in a way and then a totally different English classic. I'm obsessed with vintage, like I love my '20s, '40s, '60s, '70s pieces. You name it, I got it. I'm even into '80s stuff now, like Popkiller stuff. I just change my mind about things a lot, but I do have a fundamental style which is just functional and I do certain silhouettes that I stick to that work for my body mostly now.
I have with different friends. I do have people, but it's very difficult for me when I vibe with someone's style. My style is such a juxtaposition between like, really high-end stuff and quite clean-cut in a way and then a totally different English classic. I'm obsessed with vintage, like I love my '20s, '40s, '60s, '70s pieces. You name it, I got it. I'm even into '80s stuff now, like Popkiller stuff. I just change my mind about things a lot, but I do have a fundamental style which is just functional and I do certain silhouettes that I stick to that work for my body mostly now.
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A "rest place" in her life? That means she can't find an acting job. It's a new way of saying it. I'll have to use that if I ever get fired.
Like Mischa, she seems to be an interesting kind of girl(unlike millions of valley girl hollywood starlets), who likes to explore her edginess, her darker side, it can be an hard journey but it is interesting.
She tried the Hollywood "wild life", in a way i think it helped her (i know weird but i stick with it) to mature. Now will Hollywood accept her again, and will give her other roles..we will see..America is so judgemental..maybe she should try doing other things for a while in Europe (England for example since she loves the country, have family here..) or theater.
I love the line "people lived and died by those characters", I think that's very much true. I never accepted Marissa's death (nor will I ever) because for me it wasn't supposed to happen if you look at the rest of the show. The only reason she died was because Mischa didn't want to go on anymore. I can't ever forgive her for that. Good luck with your handbags, B*.
Mishca is a terrible actress. She nearly ruined the show. Season 4 was Soooo good without her there. Had they done away with her even a season earlier I think the show would still be on the air today.
Jaysus, could she SOUND any more shallow and superficial? What I loved about the OC was Summer and Seth's story. Adam Brody was a comedic gem!
And Lady Heather has gone on to greater things, as has Rachel Bilson and Ben McKenzie. Genuine acting chops there.
But Marissa's poor little rich girl story got really really old after the first season.
Odd that she says she is taking a break when she is scheduled to film a 3D horror film this month, guess she has backed out of it? Really bad move on her part. It's been 4 months since she's filmed a movie, I think that is enough downtime. Anyways, good interview, a little hard to read her answers though (awkward wording).
She was easily the worst part of that show. I was happy to see her character go. She really is one of the worst actresses I've ever seen on a major show. Absolutely wooden in every way.
I remember the episode where she was being "bad-***" by the pool and told her mom off and kicked a chair. It was a hilarious scene in the most unintentional way.
I think that the serie O.C California is and was the best :) I love it - But also the death by marissa was very terrible and without her it wasn't the old good beautiful o.c california:)
also in season 4 it wasn't really good as season 1, 2, 3:) mh laugh.
I really related to marissa on the o.c when I was in high school, & although her acting was at times very poor I was really upset that her character was killed off. And the 4th season was boring without all her dramas..oh well,all good things must come to an end.
Every one saying that marissa ruined the show is idiots!! You know at the beginning of the first season the whole cast and every character played a vital role for the show to have been such a success from the start! If there was no marissa then just imagine from the first season what it would have been like. Her role played a vital role in the beginnig of OC and her troubled life made it interesting. She also played it so good that people actually hated her insted of marissa in the show!