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'Fringe': Joshua Jackson and Anna Torv turn up the heat

fringe-jackson-torv.jpgDespite our unabashed fangirling the last time we hung out with Joshua Jackson, Zap2it was invited back to the "Fringe" set to once again chat with Jackson and co-star Anna Torv about the shocking turn that the series has taken in Season 3.

In last week's premiere episode, we watched sadly as Olivia was brainwashed into believing that she is actually Alternate-Olivia.  Whatever you choose to call her.

"In the script it's always Bolivia," Jackson tells us, "But my opinion is that we should allow the people who watch the show to name her. I've heard Fauxlivia, Altlivia, Nolivia."

Back in our universe, Peter has no idea that the woman he's been kissing is actually an infiltrator from the other side. The fact that he's a stranger from an enemy land is no detriment to their love life, though. Tonight's Sept. 30 episode, "The Box," will see the couple turn up the heat significantly.

"It starts off absolutely as this mission," Torv says of their romance. "She's got her own life and her own lover too, but slowly as they kind of embark on this thing, I think it's difficult for her. I think [Peter] grows on her a little bit."

Though Peter will pick up on small changes in Olivia's personality, don't expect a lightbulb to go off above his head any time soon. Jackson laughs about Peter's cluelessness. "Unfortunately when you're playing the sort of red herring stuff, somebody's got to be the idiot, and Peter's the idiot this time," he chuckles. "From an audience standpoint, and certainly from an actor's standpoint, you go 'Well, it's pretty clear,' and it's not that much of a leap for him to go, 'Wait a minute, there is a girl that looks just like this on the other side and this girl is nothing like the girl I used to know. What could possibly have happened?'"

While Peter plays the rube, he and Bolivia are forging a connection that he and Olivia never quite had. "The [real] Olivia is more emotionally closed off and sort of just-the-facts, whereas [Bolivia] is sort of off the cuff. That's closer to Peter's personality, so there's a more natural mesh between those two people. She's not nearly as broken as our Olivia."

Torv says that finding the different nuances between the two versions of her character has been tricky. "They're so alike in that they've ended up in exactly the same job with the same unit and the same partner and the same boss," she says. "They really are, genetically, the same person, and all that's shifted is their reactions are a little bit different. They've led a little bit of a different life."

Fans who have been rooting for Peter and Olivia to get together throughout the last couple of years may find it a little bit heartbreaking to watch Peter forge a deeper connection with Bolivia, but Jackson says it's animal instinct coming into play.

"Obviously she's undercover, she's a double agent, but if we did it right it'll feel like there was something real there. Peter and Olivia spent two years around each other in a very professional way - and I know it drives the writers crazy when I say this, but they were more brotherly-sisterly than they were ever sort of loverly towards the end, and then he was able to strike up [a romantic] relationship really quickly with Altlivia."

In "The Box," Bolivia's motives for being in Peter's world begin to become clear. In order to win the war, she and Walternate will need Peter's help. However, as she spends more time with him, she may find herself sympathizing with his side more than she'd expected.

Torv says we're unlikely to see Bolivia switch sides any time soon, though. "In everything she hears here, she still has her world view, which is that this side is fundamentally destroying hers."

Jackson agrees, and rattles off a quote from Joseph Stalin. "When one man dies, it's a tragedy. A million men die, it's a statistic," he says. "You have to turn the bad guy into an inhuman thing so you don't feel bad about killing them." When Bolivia eventually returns to her side, Jackson teases that the entire fate of her world may be in Peter's hands. "Peter has now this woman that he's, I don't know, fallen in love with, on the other side - if he's the guy who flips the switch, he's not so comfortable anymore."

Jackson believes that despite chemistry with Bolivia, Peter's loyalty will always lie with Olivia. That's why he chose to return to his world, despite being lied to by his father and later by Olivia. "He's choosing that these [people] are going to be his family," Jackson says. "So that bond is stronger than any blood bonds that he'd have on the other side."

Will Peter and the real Olivia ever work things out in a "loverly" sort of way? Maybe, Torv says, by the time the show finishes its run.

"Of course you're rooting for it, but that's for the end-end-end-end, when it all ends happily ever after," she says. "It's set up that way, isn't it, for you to want that but never quite get it?"

And so, we wait.

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Thanks for another good interview.

I'm just not liking the fact that they are going to make Peter look so stupid, just to facilitate the story arc that they want to tell. What exactly are the writers hoping to achieve by going down this route? Is it so that altOlivia can be conflicted about our side, while sacrificing a character in the meantime? I mean even Josh concedes it's so obvious, yet they expect the audience to just swallow it.

Um, writer's what are you smoking?

Totally felt the same way while reading this article!! Why is the character of Peter being used as a rube for the writers' torturous whims?? I said it over the summer and I'll say it again, "If it takes Peter or any other character more than one episode (or two) to figure out the truth, they will end up destroying the character they've spent two years building up."

Great article, by the by!!

Since Peter will have OTHER stuff on his mind and hopefully the writers will spend more time capitalizing on that, then I don't care about Peter and AltOlivia.

BTWm its quite obvious the writers only wants us to root for Walter and Olivia thus making Peter the bad guy. Its offical, I will keep watching but I WILL NOT STOMACH THE PETER BASHING while everyone goes oh poor Olivia! or Poor Walter! so long Fringe boards!

Its REALLY unfair that Josh's talent is wasted on this stupid love triangle! why is john and anna getting all the credit while josh is bashed, criticized and hated?

The ratings are so bad this year that I doubt we will ever see a relationship between Oliva and peter. Too many episodes have to take place for the story to get that far. We are lucky if this show makes it past the Spring of 2011 and gets renewed for another season. At least this "exchange" may be completed before the show ends. You never know.

Glee Bee, your insistence that people are bashing Joshua Jackson continues to be tiresome and bizarre, no matter how many fake screen names you adopt. Nobody has bashed Joshua Jackson. Joshua Jackson is very popular. GIVE IT UP.

Too bad the actors seem to hate each other in real life

Really, Jae? Did you pull that one out of your [deep part of the anatomy]? Even if that were true, don't tell me you love all your work mates. Thanks. Also, that doesn't interfere with the story. I'm watching Olivia and Peter. What Anna and Josh do is none of my concern or interest. Best regards.

I hate what they've done to a show that I loved. Peter is supposed to be extremely intelligent yet he doesn't know the Olivia he is with is an imposter. Ok. Bad enough. But I for one never wanted them to have a romance. I'm with Josh on the brother/sister thing, with hilarious Walter as the Dad. It is that family dynamic that I always adored about this show.
My other upset is the limited air time that Peter and Walter will have. That episode last week was SO bad I had to force myself to keep it on, hoping it would redeem itself. If I have to have whole Olivia episodes every other week I think I am just going to skip this season.

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