The Great 'Lost' Debate: Who was that boy in the jungle?
Well, another week, another edition of the Great "Lost" debate series. For a few weeks now, Zap2it's Rick Porter and I have tussled over burning questions in the show's final season. To our great credit, we have not yet resorted to name calling, hair pulling, or comparisons to Bai Ling. So let's hope this level of maturity and professionalism continues this week. The topic at hand? That creepy kid in the jungle.
Ryan McGee: OK, Rick, I realize you're a big shot now, what with your appearance on "Instant Dharma" and all. I understand that you're up to your ears in publicists, make-up artists, and screaming fanboys. But if you don't mind, the rest of us down here have a lot of questions about that blonde boy that Smocke and Sawyer saw in the jungle. I've been calling him "Peter Pan," because I think it's funny and that calling him "Connor" would confuse people that haven't seen "Angel." But clearly, he's not Peter Pan. So who is he?
The prevailing theories seem to break down as follows: 1) he's Jacob, or at least a younger version of him that The Man in Black would recognize; 2) he's Aaron, or some version of him that we have yet to see; 3) he's the personification of The Island, on the scene to remind The Man in Black that he's misbehaving; 4) he's the loved one that The Man in Black lost, alluded to in his speech to Sawyer; and my personal favorite 5) he's the ring bearer at Locke/Helen's wedding, the wedding at which everyone will apparently all attend in one month's time in the sideways universe and then get beamed magically back to the Island thanks to a giant red ball and Simon Pegg. (Can you tell I'm skeptical about Option #5? Because I am.)
Anyways, who ya got out of these options, Rick? Or is there another one I'm missing?
Rick Porter: If by "screaming fanboys" you mean "my niece texted me to tell me she liked 'Instant Dharma,'" then yes, I'm rolling in it. But thanks for thinking I'm any kind of shot, big or otherwise.
As to the identity of Peter Pan, I'd like to deal with No. 5 first -- because that's not a theory so much as it is fanfic. Other than the Kate-Claire scenes in "What Kate Does" and Locke's brief encounters with Jack, Rose and Hurley, these people don't know one another in the sideways universe -- certainly not well enough to attend Locke's wedding. Unless, of course, Kate has gone underground as a bartender-for-hire, Hurley is overseeing a Mr. Cluck's catering job and Driveshaft is now playing weddings.
OK, rant over. I'm inclined to believe that Peter Pan is a reincarnated Jacob, partly because of the way he's dressed (the vest is, I think, a dead giveaway) and partly because of his warning to the Locke in Black about not messing with the rules, which echoes their conversation in "The Incident." I'm also highly intrigued by the idea that Jacob IS Aaron, and by your suggestion -- one I hadn't thought of before -- that the boy is the loved one MIB lost. That would open up another level of storytelling that I'd be fascinated to see.
The other thing that got me thinking about Peter Pan's appearance was the fact that Sawyer could see him, but Richard apparently could not. What do you make of that?
RM: It's funny that the most obvious choice (Jacob) ironically seems the least likely. I've started calling Darlton "The Boys That Cried 'Lost'," not because I think they deserve that title but because of how fans seem wary of trusting anything onscreen anymore. They feel either burned by past assumptions or unwilling to accept any type of information as anything but a con. So now, I think a lot of people (including myself), have this thought process: "Aha! It's Jacob! Wait. That seems too easy. So it can't be Jacob." And then we end up talking ourselves into the type of pretzel logic employed by Vizzini in "The Princess Bride" and find ourselves dead on the ground thanks to iocane powder consumption.
If Jacob IS Aaron (whatever that actually means), it validates two things. Firstly, it validates that Aaron's birth and overall importance is seismic. Recent events that show both Ethan and Alex were also born on the Island negates his unique nature somewhat, but Malkin's prophecy in Season 1 has never stopped haunting me. Secondly, it validates my new theory that Jacob's ashes collected by Ilana in the statue indicate that Jacob's death at the end of Season 5 was part of a ritualistic slaughter, repeated enough times that it can surround not only the cabin, but the statue as well. I'm still working through what that means, but it's certainly intriguing.
As for Richard's inability to see the child: I'm starting to think he's the next coming of John Locke. He's a man that at first seemed impossibly cool and bad-ass, but has turned out to be anything but. He doesn't even know what a candidate is? Really? Even Bram knew what a candidate was! In my most recent podcast, Mo Ryan described him as "middle management," and I think that's about right at this point. He was perpetually befuddled in Season 5, conned by The Man in Black, and apparently not cool enough to be allowed to live in the Temple. This makes me all sorts of sad, as Richard used to be one of my favorite characters.
RP: The first part of that question is easier to answer: To me, Smocke's look of fear/confusion/anger at seeing the kid only makes me believe more that he's a version of Jacob. Here's a guy (or being, at least) in Smocke who finally thought he was rid of his nemesis, only to see him pop up again not more than a day after said nemesis was killed. To me, the look on Smocke's face read as much "Aw, c'mon!" as "Oh crap."
Now, what to make of Smocke yelling out "Don't tell me what I can't do"? It seems to me that MIB was using it in much the same way as the soul who formerly occupied his meat-suit did -- as a defiant, but mostly impotent, cry against those who doubt him. Yes, Locke was healed on the Island, but he was also led down a path where his own faith was twisted in such a way that helped result in the situation we're now seeing play out.
I think it's that sort of weakness that could pave the way for MIB's downfall. Maybe in Locke, the guy who puts the dark rock on the scale (the, uh, Black Rock, so to speak) recognizes not just someone he can manipulate but also a kindred spirit, someone with an abiding faith in the power of the Island; so much the better that he's relatively easy to manipulate to less-than-savory ends. But both are so single-minded -- Locke to prove he's everything people think he's not, MIB to get rid of Jacob -- that they can fail to see a bigger picture. The wheelchair-bound Locke we saw in "The Substitute," who was starting to accept his physical limitations, is apparently moving away from that kind of single-mindedness; I have to believe that will make a difference for the better if and when the two timelines start coming together. Don't you?
RM: I agree: I've written before that Jacob is all about strategy, whereas The Man in Black is all about tactics. The latter might make the bolder moves on the chessboard, but doesn't realize he's really playing the former's game until it's checkmate. I think Jacob saying, "They're coming," at the end of Season 5 was the first time that The Man in Black realize that the "game" as it were was not yet over. Seeing this male figure is just another example of how things aren't playing out the way he intended, which will only hasten his desire to see his endgame fulfilled.
Here's the funny thing, though: for a guy that patiently worked hundreds of years in order to free himself from the chains (metaphorical or not) that bind, he's certainly rushing things now that he's flesh and borrowed bone, no? Methinks he's working a bit too quickly, and that haste will make him miss things like, say, Sawyer's long con that started in the cave and will continue through its final (and, I fear, bitter) conclusion when James Ford picks the perfect time to cripple The Man in Black just as he's about to taste freedom.
But hey, we're getting ahead of ourselves here: let's leave that discussion for another time. And let the readers weigh in on this most mysterious boy: one week later, who do you think he is, fair readers? Leave your thoughts below!
Related:
The Great "Lost" Debate series
Live "Lost" chat returns for "Lighthouse" on February 23rd
Ryan invites you to join the hundreds already in Zap2It's Guide to Lost Facebook group.
Photo credit: ABC

I think anything's possible, but at the same time, hold that it could only really be Jacob. The kid knows the islands, he knows about the "rules", whatever they may be -- things only Jacob would know. Unless Jacob isn't the only one of his "kind", it really can't be anyone else.
I have read so many versions of who the kid is, but I haven't seen what I think may be the case. It is a young iteration of the MIB himself. It would explain the "blood on his hands" (or arms as it were). It would explain him knowing "the rules". It would explain why seeing this boy is so unsettling to the MIB - the young, more innocent and obedient version of himself.
I am probably way off base, but something about it being Jacob or Aaron just seems too easy to me.
Great info on Darlton's new podcast on iTunes. Definitely worth a listen. The date on Claire's ultrasound is cleared up. Damon emphasizes on the podcast that we are not to treat the current island and off-island action as separate entities. He says that they are NOT alternate time lines.
It's definitely a boy from MIB's past. We probably won't find out who the boy actually is until we get a MIB flashback. Assuming that even happens.
Since Jacob and MIB are clearly connected, logic seems to point at Jacob being the identity of the mystery boy. Still, I think there is a reason why the MIB is trapped on the island. Perhaps this boy has something to do with it. Maybe the MIB killed this boy when they were younger forcing the rules to be implemented.
"This makes me all sorts of sad, as Richard used to be one of my favorite characters."
My sentiments exactly. Glad you feel the same way.
I think the boy has to be Jacob; for me, there were just too many indicators that were pointing that direction:
- Knew about the "rules"
- Bloody arms (much like the ones Jacob grabbed Ben with after being stabbed)
- Dressed like a season 2 Other
- Blonde hair
- A frustrated, dissapointed demeanor. Seriously, go back and look at the way he speaks to Smocke about Sawyer and the half-scowl he has on as he walks away
Anyway, regarding Richard; you must remember that all signs point to him being on the Black Rock, coming to the Island less than two centuries ago. If Jacob ever truly had a tribe of his own, like the ones that built the Statue or the Temple, they've been gone a long time and their group keeps getting replenished by people who Jacob brings in.
What this means is Jacob might not fully trust Richard by fact of not knowing him long enough in a measurement of time that only a god-like being could understand. We must also consider what kind of person Richard himself is:
- For w/e reason he was a prisoner on the ship, in chains, meaning he was a slave or comitted some crime.
- A bit of an agressive personality, one that picked fights with Dharma and cooperated in genocide
- Apparently has been a frequent target of recruitment by Jacob's nemesis
That last one is especially important; would you spill all your secrets to a man that was being courted by your greatest enemy? It's clear from Ben's example that Jacob is ALL about the chain-of-command and need-to-know information. Much how he carried his will to Ben through Richard but never gave clear instructions, it seems like he kept some things close to his metaphorical vest from Richard, too. This could also explain why he recruited Ilana (and by proxy, Bram); it's because he knew Richard was too vulnerable or too easy to manipulate and thus he could not be trusted when the crap hit the fan.
Are the first boy and the second boy the same kid? I thought the first kid looked younger. And he didn't speak.
I think the first kid is an apparition, which is why Richard doesn't see him. The second kid is real, which is why Sawyer can. I don't put it past Darlton to introduce a new character at this point, we got Dogen & Lennon, after all.
I wouldn't give up on Richard so quickly. He know SMLocke is bad news, at least for the Jacob regime, and he apparently know him a lot better than we all do. We have no idea what he did to Richard in the past that Jacob had to bring him back from (although I'm sure we'll find out).
The best explanation I've heard of the child is that he's the scale. Jacob is the white stone, MIB the black, and the boy is the scales keeping them both in balance. If the child was Jacob, why would he come to Hurley in his adult form? And why would Illana take the time to scoop up his ashes?
I totally agree that Jacob is inhabiting Aaron or they are one. Jaaron if you will. Speaking of combining names (and maybe "we can't go back") but I just read the name UnLocke and thought it sounded better than Smocke. No disrespect intended.
I've made this point before and someone shot it down, but I really think the purpose of this Peter Pan coming to Smocke was because the rules were that TMIB could not kill Jacob. Yes, we saw Ben stab Jacob, but we then saw Smocke kick him in the fire while he still could have been alive. I'm not debating whether Jacob is dead or alive; the fact he came ot Hurley and said he was dead pretty much sealed that argument. BUT... if Jacob's death was actually caused by Smocke's kick into the fire rather than Ben's stabbing him, then TMIB did in fact break the rules and will now have to deal with the repercussions, whatever they may be. So when Peter Pan said you can't kill him, I don't think he was saying Jacob can't be killed, but rather TMIB cannot be the one to do it which was the case by kicking him in the fire.