'Letters from the Flame': Answering your 'Lost' Comic-Con questions
"Lost" fans got their fill of confusing hints about Season 6 at Comic-Con a few weeks ago. I'm here today to try and and answer some of your burning questions.
Let's get right into the queries!
With the Oceanic commercial declaring 30 yrs. of safety beginning in '79, do you think they will all somehow end up in 2009?
DCMeads
I think we shouldn't take the commercial from Comic-Con too literally. Once again, here it is, embedded for your viewing pleasure.
The 2009 just refers to the year in which it was shown at Comic-Con as opposed to where Season 6 will end up. The show's pretty insistent on the "present day" action happening in 2007, even though they technically left the Island in early 2005 and spent three years in the real world before return. I think characters talk about "three years" instead of "two years and more than six months" and we should just roll with it.
In any case, I'll reiterate my insistence on not taking the commercials shown at Comic-Con as canon. They are merely signposts towards a potential mythology.
What if, instead of seeing dead people, Hurley is able to see into an alternate universe, where they are still alive. When Hurley saw Charlie after his death, Charlie said, "I am dead, but I'm also here."
Shaggysteve
The idea of parallel universes leaves too many loopholes for me to feel comfortable embracing this notion. As always, I'm not ruling it out; that way lies the foolish "Lost" viewer. The idea in and of itself has merit, because it lets one on the surface buy that Hurley's visions retroactively all tie into the alternate timeline that potentially started when Juliet detonated Jughead.
But digging further, it falls apart in my eyes. OK, let's assume Hurley can see into a universe where Charlie's alive, Ana Lucia's chillin' with Libby, and Eko's a competitive chess player. What about Dave? Is he a real person in the Jughead Universe, a mental patient with a fondness for "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"-esque behavior? How would such a universe already exist if, in Hurley's frame of reference, it only was created in the finale moment of Season 5? Wouldn't the people in this other universe be surprised to see Original Recipe Hurley? And if "Lost" goes down this road, won't they look simply derivative in light of the "Fringe" finale? (Ed. And as Brian of the North points out in the comments, "Lost" is dealing with alternate time lines, NOT parallel universes. Which are different entities. Oh look, nose bleed!)
My take on "I am dead, but I'm also here," means, "Yes, I am dead, but that doesn't mean my ability to converse with you has ceased." It's a critical way to denote that the people Hurley sees are not mere by-products of his cracked mental state but spirits/ghosts/apparitions/corporal reanimations of those that have passed. Hurley in my mind is not special because he can see into a parallel universe but because he is especially equipped to deal with the remnants of those who died on the Island. Maybe we'll learn that Libby's assignment in Santa Rosa was to find someone with the specific cranial composition to affect such a communication on the Island.
In any case, Hurley's special ability lies in communicating with those who have passed on from our world, not those that still exist in another one. But since we've talked this much about Hurley, maybe we can talk about him a little bit more? I think Arthur would like that.
I don't think I've seen this question before. What is the true significance of the guitar that Jacob left with Hurley. Obviously, it's Charlie's, so does that mean Mr. Pace is all scrunched up in there, or is that a representation of the bloody rock God, which will serve as the portal or whatever for his return? Answers, Ryan, answers.
Arthur Dent
Well, I wasn't going to give you answers, but then you said the word twice. So my hands are pretty much tied at this point. I think it's fair to say that Charlie's ashes are not literally in the guitar at this point. Whatever Eloise's intentions were in recreating the conditions under which Oceanic 815 broke on through to the other side, it seems she wasn't exactly wrong in doing so. After all, Jacob didn't give Hurley the guitar as a mere memento. Innocuous things can take on great meaning in the "Lost" universe.
Take the Numbers, for example. In Season 5, we learn they were just a serial number on a particular piece of siding on the Swan Hatch. And yet, they eventually incur a kind of power unto themselves after The Incident. Not only do they turn into the code for the Swan computer, but either individually or as a group "call out," as it were, to major players in the "Lost" universe. The combination of unique energy under the Swan combined with the excited psychological state around it during the Incident infused the Numbers with a kind of permanent psychic resonance.
I bring this up not to avoid Arthur's question but to try and illuminate it. Something about that guitar is important. The word "portal" is a good one in that it need not be a literal doorway back to Charlie, but a way to tap into whatever part of Charlie didn't truly die in the flooded communication room of The Looking Glass. Jacob bestowing the guitar unto Hurley takes on even more meaning if you remember the "miraculous" discovery of Charlie's guitar in "House of the Rising Sun," seemingly placed there on purpose, not tossed there by happenstance. In lieu of "The Incident," can there really be any doubt that it was Jacob's doing?
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Yikes, could we set something straight here, there's a big, BIG difference between parallel universes (Sliders) and alternate time-lines (Back to the Future). Of course, I haven't waxed poetic on all things Lost related on a daily basis, so I could be off base.
Thanks Ryan. Sorry for the belligerent insistence for answers. I can be a complete knee-biter at times.
I have complete trust in the TPTB regarding the possible use of alternate timelines. They have asked that we trust them before, and they've pretty much delivered. I expect that it will all make sense in the end, and we will look back upon the six years of Lost and realize that we have just bared (bare, bared, bore???) witness to television history. At least I hope so anyway. I want to feel about Lost the same way I felt about M*A*S*H when it ended, satisfied and thankful to have been part of such a great journey.
I like your "maybe Libby's ***ignment in Santa Rosa was to find someone with the specific cranial composition to affect such a communication on the Island."
This could explain why Hurley was the last to be visited by Jacob.
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So Charlie's guitar is a Horcrux? Sweet!
WAIT! Did you really not know that Ajira 316 traveled back in time from 2008 to 2007?!?!? I can't believe I am even reading your blog! PLEASE tell me you just temporarily forgot this little detail!
"The show's pretty insistent on the "present day" action happening in 2007, even though they technically left the Island in early 2005 and spent three years in the real world before return. I think characters talk about "three years" instead of "two years and more than six months" and we should just roll with it."
First of all, thanks for the condescension. Awesome way to start the weekend.
Secondly, nope, never got that those in "present day" were not in fact even in "present day", but a calendar year earlier as far as they were concerned. Other than the title cards saying it was a 30 year difference, nothing in the Ben/Sun/notLocke era of the Island suggests they went back 1 year when they went through the white light.
I agree it makes more sense that the convoluted math I've employed to try to account for what I felt was an oversimplified rounding issue on the title cards in the show.
Course, none of this explains why Richard Alpert suggests he hasn't seen "Locke" in three years, not two. Because while Sun, Ben, Frank and the others on Ajira 316 might have gone back a year in time, Richard did not.
Wait a second here... what's the difference between parallel universes and alternative timelines? Aren't they both different worlds that co-exist, just worded differently?
Ryan, But this time around they showed three videos that all indicate the same thing? I thought that you would already be putting together the blog post asking us to list out "who's life after the plane lands in LA is better than it would have been if they crashed on the island and who's life is worse?" For example: Sun and Jin-are they hiding from Mr Paik in Los Angeles or did they return to Korea? Either way, their lives suck. And there is no baby. Or there is a baby and it is not Jins. Here is what we need to do. We need to play the "Kevin Bacon" game with all of the chance meetings that happened before Sept 22, 2004 in the show. Here is one example: Sawyer in the diner in Iowa where Kate's mom is the waitress, Kate walks in and somehow they meet. Maybe Sawyer hooks up with Anthony Cooper to do a con and then realizes who he is and kills him? Locke meets Hurley when Hurley decided to tour the box company. Locke meets Sayid when he inspects Nadia's house. Or Charlie meets Sayid when he helps Nadia with the purse snatcher. You see how it will work? Damon and Carlton keep saying that they knew the entire story arc from the very beginning so I can't help but believe all of those chance meetings will alter just a little bit to bring all of them together somehow. I think "the universe always self corrects" will put them back on the island somehow in 2009. Or I'm wrong again. :o)
wow, i really like heidi's theory on the ending of the show. do you have a writing degree heidi? good job.
ryan what are your thoughts?
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