'Castle': E.P. Rob Bowman talks Beckett & her mother's murder, season 2 & more
The season finale of "Castle" is tonight and my girl Marisa Roffman is obsessed. She got some time with E.P. Rob Bowman who says the Nathan Fillion/Stana Katic drama is so getting a season two (I mean, probably)...
"Castle" is one of the few shows that has actually gained viewers these past few weeks, so congratulations on that.
RB:
We've got loyal followers, we've got good word of mouth, and [the increase in viewers] coming at the right time. So hopefully that'll be what the
network needs to pick us up [for next year].
Have you heard anything from the network about a season two?
RB:
[We've heard] a lot of things, but not the official pickup. We're
interviewing writers and looking at directors and behaving as if [we're
going to be back] though. We're just waiting to get the call.
Have you got any specific stories in mind for next season?
RB: I
think [creator] Andrew [Marlowe] is still brewing over that himself. We
just finished [season one] and we haven't even caught our
breath yet. There are a few ideas floating around. I'll [be directing] the first one back.
Let's talk about the last episode of this season, tonight's hour. I'm
hearing Castle digs further into the murder of Beckett's mother.
Anything you can tease regarding that?
RB: I can neither confirm nor deny those reports.
I think ABC has blown your cover regarding that...
RB: [Laughs]
Look, [Castle] knows this is the thing that haunts [Beckett], the thing that
drove her to become a homicide detective. He is a very resourceful,
well-connected man and if he can use those resources to solve a crime,
he is going to. I will say it would be a very strong idea to conclude
the first ten [episodes] with that plotline. I imagine that it's
probably a touchy subject for Beckett, so I wish Castle well treading
in those perilous waters. How far will he go? Will he risk his
friendship with her? I don't know. But again, it's very, very perilous
waters to walk in, to do something she doesn't want him to do. [Remember] that
[Detective] Esposito said, don't tell her I helped and gave you the
file, back in episode five? If that's [what goes on in the finale],
then it's [going to be] meaty stuff.
When Castle does stuff like this, it seems he often forgets
that Beckett has a gun and she can shoot him if he pisses her off.
RB: [Laughs] That was obviously a very funny moment in the
pilot, and yeah, I think if he keeps crossing the line, if he does
something [bad], [Beckett] should just shoot him in the toe or
whatever! [But] we know he has a good heart and he only wants what's
best for her, so I don't think he's going to do anything awful to her
or destructive. He's likely to go too far [because he likes her, though].
Will Castle find some kind of miraculous break in the case, or is
the murder of Beckett's mother something you plan to leave unsolved for
the foreseeable future?
RB: I don't think [the case is] something
that could be resolved quickly. I think there are a lot of
complications in it. If I were writing it, I would make it so that every
stone you turned over, you revealed three more. Beckett is a very good homicide detective, and if
she couldn't solve the case of her own mother's murder, I don't think
it's an easily solved situation. I don't think it's going to be one
good-hearted gesture from Castle [that just does the trick]. To say, I'll
swoop in, and the mayor will help me, whatever, I
think it's more complicated than that. I think there will be ups and
downs. I wouldn't expect to have [the case] resolved in the opening
episode of next year.
And the murder of her mother has obviously helped shaped Beckett into the woman she is today.
RB: When it comes to solving murders and people not
getting away with it, I've always said [Beckett]'s the wrong person to
have looking for you. Because she has these personal
demons, she sets everything aside, including personal feelings, to get things done. The way she can use that ghost [that haunts her] is [remarkable]...
tenacity, commitment, ferocity, hard work, whatever it takes. I think
if she's got you in her sights, you're not getting away.
While we see how being alone has shaped Beckett, Castle's family
plays a big role in the shaping of his life. Was it always the
intention to ground Castle with his family life, because it seems that
while he is a total man-boy at work, he shows a bit more maturity
around his family.
RB: [That was] absolutely intentional. His mom requires a lot of real
estate, a lot of emotional and psychological real estate, so Castle has
to surrender some of his own when he walks into a finite amount of
space with her. He does love her, and it's okay with him that she has
her own notion of grandeur and past accolades. And if she wants to feel
that way, that's okay with him. But we've also seen in a few episodes,
[she has] a very grounded, a very real side, a side of wisdom, a side
of experience, she's good-hearted. It's not [just] the whimsical, hands
flying around, gesticulating her point [all the time]. She's both a
hyperbole and good-reasoned. And that is definitely something we
wanted, we wanted to surround Castle with women, and we wanted to
surround Beckett with men. They both have their own world of gender
issues. The relationship with [Castle and his] daughter, we wanted the
daughter to be mature. Not to be written-down to, not to be portrayed
as a distressed teenager, as I think they commonly are [in television].
She's well balanced, self-assured, self-confident. And just as Castle
defers some psychological real estate to the confines of his mom, I
believe the daughter surrenders some of her psychological real estate
to her father. She seems to be the grown-up between the two. She's
really not, but that is the basis for the dynamic of the relationship.
[The relationship is] really just based on how much he loves and cares
for her, but as we saw in episode four when [Alexis] had to figure out
her own conditions of being grounded, because she's determined to do
it, those kind of moments give us insight into how to properly raise a
daughter. [Castle]'s not always sure how to do it, but [Alexis]'ll help
him. We want those [family moments] to be real. We want them to be
grounded. Those are the moments that give us permission to have fun
while we're trying to solve a murder.
Alexis is going to prom in the season finale. Is Castle going to
have a problem with his baby girl taking such a big step towards
growing up?
RB: She's a little girl [in his mind]. If she's going to her first prom, I'm sure she's going to
be very excited about it. She's [not above] the freshness of
her first experiences [because of her maturity], she doesn't look down
on it. But I have a feeling in terms of the rules of the night, she'll
probably be [the one] setting her own rules of the night because her
dad won't set the rules for her.
Since we're on the subject of the women in Castle's life, we have to talk about Beckett as his muse. Does she think their time together is going to be over soon
now that there is cover art for the Nikki Heat book?
RB: She's very
shortsighted if she thinks he's writing [just] one book about her.
There's going to be a series of them! She said [in the last episode],
if they're doing the cover art, that means your book's done, and that
means you and I are almost done. Well, she's in for a big surprise.
I can just imagine how thrilled she is going to be when she finds out he's going to be sticking around.
RB:
Oh yeah, of course. And the book will be a big hit because it's based
on the real life comings and goings of New York homicide detective Kate
Beckett, who's still active, and still filling Castle's mind with
stories and ideas, and wonderfully exploitive character flaws, which she
will underline and highlight [when she sees the book]. But yeah, we're
starting a new series. There might be ten or fifteen new Nikki Heat
books.
Which will give us plenty of time for Beckett and Castle to bond
further. You know I have to ask about their relationship and where it's
going.
RB: We wanted it to be clear that there was an overt
attraction by him to her and that in the good old-fashioned
man-chases-woman, that rejection was part of her game. That she is, at
her root, a serious homicide detective, and somebody loitering around
real, hardworking people who are dealing with life-and-death, [the fact that] her
office is being occupied by a writer, is getting in the way. And she was
off-put by that. Rightly so. Problem is, he's charming. He did help
solve the first murder. He does have occasionally insightful things to
say. As any homicide cop would agree, any good ideas to help solve the
crime are welcome. The problem is, they come out of [Castle's] mouth
and he is a man-boy. But as long as the mayor is happy, and the
commissioner's happy, and the captain's happy, he's not going away. And
so, we've put them in this box that neither of them... well, seemingly,
we've removed the options for either one of them to get out of the
situation. So they're in it. I think Andrew's description to me of that
first interrogation [in the pilot] was, he thinks he's on a first date,
and she thinks she's interrogating a suspect. And I think he always believes he's
on some sort of date with her, but I think she always feels like she's
saddled with him, but has decided to surrender the battle and join
forces to solve crimes. In terms of them actually getting together
[romantically], well, wouldn't that ruin it?
They almost seem like they're together already. His family has
really taken to her, plus Beckett and Castle already fight like they're
a couple.
RB: Yeah, like in episode five when they pretend they're
married and they start bickering in front of the [apartment] tenant and she says, well if we're married, I want a divorce. They're always
bickering like boyfriend-girlfriend, husband and wife. So, yes, we are
behaving as so, but in her mind, it's never going to happen. And that
is again, part of the chase. Men like that kind of thing. Rejection is
the key to have you keep coming back. I'm positive if something were to
happen, [something] more than conversation, it can only happen under
the guise of inebriation. To the point of blackout, to the point of
neither one of them remembering, to the point where both of them are saying -- certainly her -- that it never happened, you can't prove anything
happened. And therefore the score is still 0-0. The truth is, we walk
the line, every day, every scene. We're trying to make it really fun
for the audience. Castle adores her, no question about it. And I think
that she does find him charming and useful and I think that's how she
characterizes him the most... charming and useful.

Love the lengthy answers!! I love the show, the cast, the writing. I am really glad that it is looking more & more likely for renewal (Yay!) .. and very much want it to be renewed. Please ABC!!!
I hate to start enjoying any new show on ABC.They won't give it a decent chance.
I hope they do renew Castle, I love this show, even my husband is getting into it. I hope ABC doesn't blow it because I'm getting tired of watching shows that grow on me week after week only to get cancelled.
castle is such an amazing show. it would be devestating if it doesn't get renewed. I need to see what happens with Beckett's mother's case.
Excellent interview! I'm really intrigued by Castle, and I'm hoping that ABC picks the show up for another season. It has so much potential, I want to see where this goes!
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, A MILLION AND ONE TIMES THANK YOU!!!
Excellent job Marisa...so much scoop!!! And thank you for the support of our Castle Korbi!
Everyone cross your fingers for season 2 plus plus plus!!!
I enjoy this show more & more each week! I like the sparkiness between Castle & Beckett. It's obvious he likes her but he's learning to respect her also. She's also learning there's more to him than just charm & money & usefulness. I certainly hope it gets renewed!
Love the show. It became one of my "must sees" from the pilot. I really hope they renew it because it makes a refreshing change from the other police procedurals on now. Unlike most, they also do a nice job balancing Castle's home and work lives and fleshing out the side characters.
Great interview! I sure hope it comes back next season.
"In terms of them actually getting together [romantically], well, wouldn't that ruin it?".
You cann see that Rob was on The X-Files for a long time. It's the Mulder/Scully thing all over again. But it's fun.