'Big Brother' Nominations Are In (SPOILERS)
Dan, this week's Big Brother Head of Household winner, has submitted his nominations. I was a wee bit surprised and I will tell you why after the jump. It seems like good strategy on Dan's part, though. There was also a weird moment in the HOH bathroom...
Dan has nominated Jerry and Memphis this week. At first, I wasn't sure how I felt about Dan nominating Memphis. I thought for sure he would put up Jerry and Keesha. However, I guess he is planning ahead so that Memphis cannot get backdoored. We'll see how this plays out, because if Keesha wins Power of Veto and chooses not to use it, she could still send Memphis packing. Should be an intense POV competition.
The other weird thing that happened (that people are speculating about like mad) is right here. Dan says to himself, "If I can get Michelle's vote..." A lot of people think maybe this has something to do with the luxury competition and electing NOT to take a current houseguest with him to the private beach. I can't wait to see the episode when we actually learn what Dan's prize was.
I don't get it. Everyone plays for the veto this week and whoever wins (besides Dan) is the sole vote of the house. Putting Memphis up on the block doesn't seem to accomplish anything. If Dan wins the veto, he can still pull Memphis off and make him the only vote. How is that different than if Dan wins the veto and the nominations are already Keesha and Jerry and he leaves it the same? Memphis is still the only vote in either scenario.
Oh well, hopefully it will work out.
Blue Sean | Sep 6, 2008 6:20:26 AM | #Sean, I think it's like Andrea says, Dan wanted to avoid the possiblity of Memphis being backdoored. Had he nominated Keesha instead and Keesha or Jerry won POV (which we've seen, unfortunately, is a definite possibility), then Memphis would go up and be at the mercy of whoever was left. And there are no guarantees that either Keesha or Jerry would have voted to keep Memphis. This way he has an opportunity to control his own fate by winning the veto.
Beth | Sep 6, 2008 10:32:22 AM | #Beth- But he has the power anyway since everyone plays for the veto. How is it different with him on the block to start off with? If either Jerry or Keesha win the veto, that veto-winner is still the sole vote to evict.
Veto Scenarios with Jerry/Memphis nominated:
Dan wins- Takes Memphis off, Keesha replaces, Memphis votes Jerry out.
Keesha wins- Not allowed to use it since no replacement, nominations stay, Keesha votes Jerry out.
Jerry wins- Takes himself off, Keesha goes up, Jerry votes Memphis out.
Memphis wins- Takes himself off, Keesha goes up, Memphis votes Jerry out.
Veto Scenarios if Jerry/Keesha nominated:
Dan wins- Nominations stay the same, Memphis votes Jerry out.
Keesha wins- Takes herself off, Memphis goes up, Keesha votes Jerry out.
Jerry wins- Takes himself off, Memphis goes up, Jerry votes out Memphis.
Memphis wins- Nominations stay, Memphis votes Jerry out.
See? There really isn't any difference at all with him up or not. Maybe that is why he is doing it, to give Memphis that extra motivation (not that he needs it) to win the veto.
I am still not sold on it but I guess it doesn't matter anyway. Sorry for the super-long post, by the way.
Blue Sean | Sep 6, 2008 11:21:10 AM | #Sean, I think you forget the scenario that Keesha wins POV, doesn't use it, then is swayed to vote Memphis out. She doesn't HAVE to vote Jerry out. If she flipped, they're done. This way, Memphis still has the same POV chances, but cannot be backdoored.
Andrea | Sep 6, 2008 11:33:20 AM | #Sean, I still agree with Andrea. I think it's a mistake to assume anyone's vote at this point in the game. No guarantees that Keesha would stick with Memphis. Also, Dan and Memphis are still trying to downplay their alliance and are hoping this will help. If people think it's nuts to nominate an ally once, what will they think of nominating him twice?
Beth | Sep 6, 2008 12:40:36 PM | #I guess what I'm saying is that Keesha could still do that even if she was the one who was nominated. A true "backdoor" is to use the veto to get someone on the block who does not have an opportunity to save themselves. Memphis (and all house-guests) have the opportunity to win the veto and secure their spot in the final three with Dan.
Blue Sean | Sep 6, 2008 1:13:24 PM | #Yes, you are correct that someone who is backdoored does not have an opportunity to save themselves. That's why the term applies to ANYONE who goes on the block as a replacement nomination after a veto is used. If Keesha and Jerry were nominated and one of them won veto, Memphis would thereby be backdoored. By definition, you can't be backdoored if you're already on the block to begin with.
Beth | Sep 6, 2008 1:19:16 PM | #I guess we can agree to disagree on this one, Beth. My definition of a backdoor is only applicable when not all house-guests can play for the veto. You have a house full of 10 people, the HoH nominates 2 allies to stack the deck for the veto competition., one of the three win and then use the veto to get the person they actually want out of the house on the block. In this scenario, the person who was backdoored never played for the veto at all.
Blue Sean | Sep 6, 2008 6:06:31 PM | #Yes, we can. :-) But for one last example, remember this season's most infamous case. Michelle was backdoored (as she has reminded everyone ad nauseum) and she HAD played for the veto. From what I have seen, backdoor applies to any person nominated after a veto is used because yes, at that point they no longer have an opportunity to save themselves. Actually, I haven't been watching BB long, but I've never seen a case where someone has nominated two of their allies. It would be hard to imagine, considering people were in enough of a tizzy seeing Dan nominate just one of his.
Beth | Sep 6, 2008 8:03:23 PM | #Beth- Yeah, Michelle was just spouting 'cause she is a wacko.
"Backdooring" was coined in Season Five by the eventual winner, Nacomis. She would not nominate her target, stack the veto competition with all of her allies and then take someone off to put the real target up to get out. That real target never had the opportunity to play for the veto at all to secure their safety.
Blue Sean | Sep 6, 2008 10:17:41 PM | #I'm with Beth. A "backdoor" is anyone who is nominated after POV is used.
Andrea | Sep 7, 2008 3:40:55 AM | #Looks like I am outnumbered!
:)
I refer to that as simply a replacement nominee. It is kind of like an SAT question, isn't it? "All victims of backdooring are replacement nominees, but not all replacement nominees are backdoored."
Blue Sean | Sep 7, 2008 5:54:56 AM | #the sadist thing about Big Brother is that usually the biggest slug wins. Dan is this years biggest slug along with his snake in the grass partern memphis
angelina | Sep 7, 2008 10:42:04 AM | #About This Blog
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